[Mafia Win] Mafia XLV: Misdirection - GAME

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Re: Mafia XLV: Misdirection - R2 Ends 5:00pm GMT 7/17

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JTc - 2 - Mystic, Romeo
Mystic - 1 - JTc
Romeo - 3 - HATER, Emziek, The0Dominant
No vote - 1 - Freddy.

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Re: Mafia XLV: Misdirection - R2 Ends 5:00pm GMT 7/17

Post by Freddy »

Hater, there isn't rly much for me to say here. Everything has already been said. Mystic's claim sounds pathetic and doubtful sooo voting him for the time being.

[Vote Mystic]

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JTc - 2 - Mystic, Romeo
Mystic - 2 - JTc, Freddy
Romeo - 3 - HATER, Emziek, The0Dominant
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Re: Mafia XLV: Misdirection - R2 Ends 5:00pm GMT 7/17

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vote romeo

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JTc - 2 - Mystic, Romeo
Mystic - 1 - Freddy
Romeo - 4 - HATER, Emziek, The0Dominant, JTc
LHLV: Romeo
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Re: Mafia XLV: Misdirection - R2 Ends 5:00pm GMT 7/17

Post by Bravo »

I wanna be out of the game anyways. JTc says I am a villager yet he is voting me. Fuck this...

[Vote Romeo]
JTc wrote:vote romeo

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JTc - 1 - Mystic
Mystic - 1 - Freddy
Romeo - 4 - HATER, Emziek, The0Dominant, JTc, Romeo
LHLV: Romeo
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Re: Mafia XLV: Misdirection - R2 Ends 5:00pm GMT 7/17

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Romeo wrote:I wanna be out of the game anyways. JTc says I am a villager yet he is voting me. Fuck this...

[Vote Romeo]
JTc wrote:vote romeo

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JTc - 1 - Mystic
Mystic - 1 - Freddy
Romeo - 4 - HATER, Emziek, The0Dominant, JTc, Romeo
LHLV: Romeo
all i say is you're not mafia.
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Re: Mafia XLV: Misdirection - R2 Ends 5:00pm GMT 7/17

Post by Bravo »

As HATER said, self vote is the biggest hint that I am mafia, go ahead kill me.
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Re: Mafia XLV: Misdirection - R2 Ends 5:00pm GMT 7/17

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First off, Romeo is not likely to be mafia, since Mystic, JTc and Romeo cannot all be mafia.

It shouldn't need to be said, but Mystic's claim of being cop is obvious bullshit, and basically confirms JTc as the real cop.

JTc is likely a sane cop. Romeo's vote on JTc makes little sense as any alignment, but makes even less sense as mafia (why would you vote for a cop who's currently . He's currently my top guess for politician and his vote on Mystic is further evidence of this (since the politician would be the only one who would benefit from us lynching the crime boss this round).

It follows that we should be searching for the other Mafia member (the Framer). Lynching Romeo this round gives us absolutely nothing currently, even if he is the politcian, his toughness would keep him alive until next round and ensure that Mystic survives yet another round.


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My current top suspect right now is Freddy.

Let's take a journey through his ISO:

Posts #2 and #3 are following my R1 vote, and voting Mystic. This is about the towniest thing Freddy has done this game, though mafia often like to use votes to distance during Round 1. Still, it's a little risky and that gives Freddy some towncred.


However, Freddy immediately jumps off the Mystic wagon when I switch over to mendel. This in itself is not terribly scummy (as mendel's reasoning was faulty and his play was highly suspect), but let's look a little closer at this vote.
Freddy wrote:I like the whole idea of getting politician lynched asap because as much as it benefits mafia it can also help town.

[Vote Mendel]

Let's rewind here -- the entire argument Mendel and I were having was whether the Crime Boss or the Politician was a bigger priority. I argued that the crime boss was a bigger priority, since it would allow our Bounty Hunter to claim and have the mafia unable to shoot them (very similar to the current situation with Mystic, but much better for town since it would be a town player left alive instead of a mafia).

Mendel's arguments centered around finding and lynching the politician, however. It's very strange, then, that Freddy says he agrees with the point Mendel is arguing for, and then votes for him (?!)

I missed this because I was tunnel hard on Mendel, Mystic, and Numble at the time, but looking back, this is indeed suspicious.



Not a whole lot to see about his vote on Numble, it happens after Numble has hit critical mass and is likely to be lynched (he sunk himself with his r1 post very hard, as I demonstrated shortly after R2 began). It's interesting to note that Numble calls out Freddy with a villager (Cruxell), and just two hours later, Freddy hops on with a vote on Numble without any reasoning or contribution whatsoever. There was not a point at which Freddy could have feasibly jumped onto the Lawliet wagon (and actually changed the outcome) so his vote on Numble does not count as an effective hammer.


Finally, let's take a look at his last post:

Freddy wrote: Hater, there isn't rly much for me to say here. Everything has already been said. Mystic's claim sounds pathetic and doubtful sooo voting him for the time being.

[Vote Mystic]
This is the post that strikes me as most suspicious. It's been said several times in the thread by that point that Mystic is likely the crime boss, and that lynching him will cause the village to lose and the politician to win. With this information in mind, a vote on Mystic, while technically "a vote on mafia", does the village no good, since we can't effectively lynch mystic until his partner is dead.

It accomplishes the 3 things the mafia want to do most at this stage in the game:

a) Not actually lynch mafia
b) Give no new information to town (we already know Mystic is mafia)
c) Look towny (It's technically voting for mafia)


From an analysis of the previous two rounds and from the information we have now, Freddy is by far the most suspicious candidate for Framer.

[vote Freddy]

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Freddy - 1 - HATER
JTc - 1 - Mystic
Mystic - 1 - Freddy
Romeo - 4 - Emziek, The0Dominant, JTc, Romeo
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Re: Mafia XLV: Misdirection - R2 Ends 5:00pm GMT 7/17

Post by HATER »

(why would you vote for a cop who's currently
Since this must have gotten deleted as I was typing my last post up, this sentence was intended to be “why would you vote for a cop who’s currently calling you innocent?”.
You must disregard the statement I am currently making because every statement I make is inherently false.

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Re: Mafia XLV: Misdirection - R2 Ends 5:00pm GMT 7/17

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[Vote Freddy]

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Freddy - 2 - HATER, Freddy
JTc - 1 - Mystic
Mystic - 1 - Freddy
Romeo - 3 - Emziek, The0Dominant, Romeo
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Re: Mafia XLV: Misdirection - R2 Ends 5:00pm GMT 7/17

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    Re: Mafia XLV: Misdirection - R2 Ends 5:00pm GMT 7/17

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    Freddy - 2 - HATER, Jtc
    JTc - 1 - Mystic
    Mystic - 1 - Freddy
    Romeo - 3 - Emziek, The0Dominant, Romeo
    LHLV: Romeo
    fixed tally,

    misclicked enter on those other posts
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    Re: Mafia XLV: Misdirection - R2 Ends 5:00pm GMT 7/17

    Post by HATER »

    Legendary


    Werty can jtc get an award for those posts?
    You must disregard the statement I am currently making because every statement I make is inherently false.

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    Re: Mafia XLV: Misdirection - R2 Ends 5:00pm GMT 7/17

    Post by The0Dominant »

    I wouldn't say that I find Romeo completely innocent.
    However, the tinker is dead and JTc is probably sane.Thus this probably true:
    Romeo wrote:I recieved info that I was peeked by the dep and I am confirmed villager, and of course, for the safety and security of the deputy, I was not exposed to who the deputy because the deputy is apparently afraid that I might expose him like I did with JTc.
    This also explains his vote on JTc after that.

    About Freedy, I agree with Hater.
    Yes I'm not completely sure if he is the 3rd mafia member or the polit but his acts are more fishy than Romeo's.
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    Re: Mafia XLV: Misdirection - R2 Ends 5:00pm GMT 7/17

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    [Vote Freddy]
    yo Lawlite come do taly
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