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#256 Post Re: Mafia XXXII: Cash Craze Isolate
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[vote Dee Dee]

Nicely played Kontra, for a change. I guess it's safe to ask who's gonna be our target next round?

Also Flath did point something out and I personally do believe it's possible.. He might as well be Serial killer to get a mafia this soon specially since his proofs are based on logs rather posts. Because if you look at her posts, they are all pretty village friendly. Though nonetheless, this does decrease his mafia probability specially if Dee Dee turns out to be the Thug, considering that no one else has toughness.

Again, well played Kontra.


1) Nobody else seems way too suspicious to me at the moment, I'll share more info if I get any.
2) I don't understand how her posts have me basing my proofs on logs has anything to do with this.


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#257 Post Re: Mafia XXXII: Cash Craze Isolate
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Don't forget there is a mafia thug role, which at this point seems to be Dee Dee having deceived everyone into lynching her. This is why I recommend that the vigilante uses one of his shot to take her out. We better off lynching the SK.


1) You are not confirmed as a Town member in any way.
2) You have your "reasons" for suspecting me and Numble of being the SK, yet you still haven't presented them publicly so everyone can check the facts for themselves.
3) Since (1) says you are not a confirmed villager, there's little to no point in trusting your words if you don't provide concrete data to back it up.
4) Even if you have a good theory supporting your claim that either I or Numble are the SK, it has to be pretty darn good to overweight (>) a confirmed Mafia. Just some flimsy speculations won't be enough to stray from the given path at hand.

And besides, what you said above isn't necessarily true. There's nothing saying that Dee Dee is the Thug. We can only know he's 1 / 4 Mafia roles. The reasons for why we can't know he is the Thug is because your statement 'at this point seems to be Dee Dee having deceived everyone into lynching her.' can't possibly be true. There would be no merit for the Thug to have himself lynched for no reason. In fact it's better that we lynch the Thug than lynching a villager again or not lynching anyone at all. And in addition to this, it's safe to say that based on K0ntra's discussion this wasn't calculated from Dee Dee's side. It was clearly a rookie mistake and as such him being the Thug would simply be an unfortunate coincidence.

With the above in mind, it sounds as if you are trying to protect Dee Dee from being lynched. With 13 players alive, it will in the worst case scenario put us down to 9 players with 4 / 9 being Mafia members. Because remember that the SK, too, has a toughness, just like the Thug. It's in our interest to lynch Dee Dee and hope that the Mafia happens to shoot the SK rather than trying to find him ourselves through lynching potential suspects.

I call both Dee Dee and Ultor out on being Mafia.


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#258 Post Re: Mafia XXXII: Cash Craze Isolate
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NumBle wrote:
[vote Dee Dee]

Nicely played Kontra, for a change. I guess it's safe to ask who's gonna be our target next round?

Also Flath did point something out and I personally do believe it's possible.. He might as well be Serial killer to get a mafia this soon specially since his proofs are based on logs rather posts. Because if you look at her posts, they are all pretty village friendly. Though nonetheless, this does decrease his mafia probability specially if Dee Dee turns out to be the Thug, considering that no one else has toughness.

Again, well played Kontra.


1) Nobody else seems way too suspicious to me at the moment, I'll share more info if I get any.True, but at this point no one can trust no one.
2) I don't understand how her posts have me basing my proofs on logs has anything to do with this.It means that you didn't analise her behavior on the game threat at all meaning you went cluelessly blind straight up to Dee Dee and claimed that she was mafia. Having that kind of info without any previous information or analisys pretty much means that you either peeked her or you got EXTREMELY lucky that you plan actually worked out.

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#259 Post Re: Mafia XXXII: Cash Craze Isolate
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Donald Dump wrote:
NumBle wrote:
[vote Dee Dee]

Nicely played Kontra, for a change. I guess it's safe to ask who's gonna be our target next round?

Also Flath did point something out and I personally do believe it's possible.. He might as well be Serial killer to get a mafia this soon specially since his proofs are based on logs rather posts. Because if you look at her posts, they are all pretty village friendly. Though nonetheless, this does decrease his mafia probability specially if Dee Dee turns out to be the Thug, considering that no one else has toughness.

Again, well played Kontra.


1) Nobody else seems way too suspicious to me at the moment, I'll share more info if I get any.True, but at this point no one can trust no one.
2) I don't understand how her posts have me basing my proofs on logs has anything to do with this.It means that you didn't analise her behavior on the game threat at all meaning you went cluelessly blind straight up to Dee Dee and claimed that she was mafia. Having that kind of info without any previous information or analisys pretty much means that you either peeked her or you got EXTREMELY lucky that you plan actually worked out.


Since when does "extremely" mean 25% chance?


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#260 Post Re: Mafia XXXII: Cash Craze Isolate
Donald Dump wrote:
NumBle wrote:
Donald Dump wrote:
NumBle wrote:
[vote Dee Dee]

Nicely played Kontra, for a change. I guess it's safe to ask who's gonna be our target next round?

Also Flath did point something out and I personally do believe it's possible.. He might as well be Serial killer to get a mafia this soon specially since his proofs are based on logs rather posts. Because if you look at her posts, they are all pretty village friendly. Though nonetheless, this does decrease his mafia probability specially if Dee Dee turns out to be the Thug, considering that no one else has toughness.

Again, well played Kontra.


1) Nobody else seems way too suspicious to me at the moment, I'll share more info if I get any.True, but at this point no one can trust no one.
2) I don't understand how her posts have me basing my proofs on logs has anything to do with this.It means that you didn't analise her behavior on the game threat at all meaning you went cluelessly blind straight up to Dee Dee and claimed that she was mafia. Having that kind of info without any previous information or analisys pretty much means that you either peeked her or you got EXTREMELY lucky that you plan actually worked out.


Since when does "extremely" mean 25% chance?25% chance of her being Thug. How many players are alive?Total: 13 living players. Do the math. My math might suck but I'm sure it's not 25%

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#261 Post Re: Mafia XXXII: Cash Craze Isolate
[vote SiX]


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#262 Post Re: Mafia XXXII: Cash Craze Isolate
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when you realize youre fucked

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#263 Post Re: Mafia XXXII: Cash Craze Isolate
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[vote SiX]


You're voting someone who is just a little tiny bit suspicious over a proven self-admitted mafia?


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#264 Post Re: Mafia XXXII: Cash Craze Isolate
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This post makes absolutely no logic. Chances of her being the thug are only 1/4. And while it wouldn't be a too big waste for the vig to use one shot as he rarely gets to use them, that doesn't mean he should take a 1/4 chance.
Absolutely no logic? I don't think you've figured it out yet. While its true that the chances of her being a thug is 1/4 it still doesn't matter if the vigilante uses his shot- we still manage to kill a mafia you see. What else do you propose for the vig to do? Simply saving his shots until he ends up being dead? That's completely stupid tbh.

As for NumBle and Six being the SK, here is why. First of all, have a look at Emizek's ISO#6. Just when he directs attention into SiX and NumBle, he ends up being shot and stabbed- you see the link here? Notice how he mentioned SiX specifically and how he tried playing defensively in order to prevent Blaze from being lynched. Now that could mean few things. SiX having R0 peek at Blaze as a villager and tried to form some kind of alliance with Blaze which will benefit him later on- this way his identity would remain anonymous. However, it can also be completely the opposite- Blaze being a mafia and SiX knowing this wanted to stay out of the mafia's radar (fooling them into thinking that they can ignore SiX for few rounds as he wouldn't cause any trouble). Even though those 2 scenarios are only theories and I believe that the second scenario is more likely, but we can't dismiss the fact that Emizek ended up dying just after he mentioned SiX and NumBle (don't forget that Emizek was also stabbed by the SK).

ISO for SiX- isolation.php?tid=26812&pid=4332. ISO# 2, 4, 5 and 6 are all posts related to SiX defending Blaze.

As for ISO#10 for SiX:-
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1) You are not confirmed as a Town member in any way.

If you ISO my posts, you will see that I'm the only one with 25 posts in this game. What does this mean? A very active, eager to win villager. I've also made vital contributions into the game, revealing multiple evidence regarding different issues and making on-point analysis- example, how I tried preventing Playboy from being lynched. If you notice, almost every post I made out of those 25 has helped the village in a way or another. Do you seriously think that if I was a mafia, I would draw this much attention?
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2) You have your "reasons" for suspecting me and Numble of being the SK, yet you still haven't presented them publicly so everyone can check the facts for themselves.
Looks like you don't have patience when we are doing 48 hour rounds. If you read my post carefully, you would have figured out that I specifically said "I will make another post about the game once I get home".
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3) Since (1) says you are not a confirmed villager, there's little to no point in trusting your words if you don't provide concrete data to back it up.

1 was mostly based on your opinion, I'm pretty sure others have figured out that I'm a villager by now (if you have objections please present yourself). And why the hell would I need concrete data in R2? Are you trying to make me claim (if I was the cop?) my role? I've already presented the correlation between Emizek and you and Blaze aswell, is that not enough? Obviously you wouldn't trust my words if you were the SK lol.
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4) Even if you have a good theory supporting your claim that either I or Numble are the SK, it has to be pretty darn good to overweight (>) a confirmed Mafia. Just some flimsy speculations won't be enough to stray from the given path at hand.
I've already presented an efficient path where the vig can take part in.
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And besides, what you said above isn't necessarily true. There's nothing saying that Dee Dee is the Thug. We can only know he's 1 / 4 Mafia roles. The reasons for why we can't know he is the Thug is because your statement 'at this point seems to be Dee Dee having deceived everyone into lynching her.' can't possibly be true.

There is nothing saying Dee Dee is a thug? Do you really think someone would be that stupid to reveal their role to unproven claim by Donald Dump? I don't. Remember that the mafia know each other and they support each other. One wouldn't dare to make a devastating move without any advice from their teammates. And how does my statement not make sense? It was a logical speculation based on the fact that this was a planned move from the mafia team.
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There would be no merit for the Thug to have himself lynched for no reason

Yeah what if one of the other mafia members was about to be lynched (e.g. Blaze)? What would you do if you were a mafia? Use the thug to save one of their own. Also if you have noticed, by ISOing Dee Dee, there is no relation to anyone else apart from Playboy who was obviously a village, and Larah. This is why I started to think that Larah is actually a villager. The mafia has nothing to lose in this scenario.
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In fact it's better that we lynch the Thug than lynching a villager again or not lynching anyone at all

Yeah, adds more to your suspicion lol. Lynching is one of the primary features in this game which allows you to gather information around. Now you simply want to shut off this method and stop the flow of information. How is this good for the village? This is why having the vig shot is a much more efficient method of eliminating or revealing the identity of Dee Dee. And as if not lynching anyone is possible.
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And in addition to this, it's safe to say that based on K0ntra's discussion this wasn't calculated from Dee Dee's side. It was clearly a rookie mistake and as such him being the Thug would simply be an unfortunate coincidence.

How is safe to assume this and how did you reach to the conclusion of it being a rookie mistake based on no 'concrete evidence' at all? You speak of coincidences like they happen at all times. Simply believing that it was a rookie mistake is pretty stupid because in this game, you should not underestimate people.
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With the above in mind, it sounds as if you are trying to protect Dee Dee from being lynched. With 13 players alive, it will in the worst case scenario put us down to 9 players with 4 / 9 being Mafia members. Because remember that the SK, too, has a toughness, just like the Thug. It's in our interest to lynch Dee Dee and hope that the Mafia happens to shoot the SK rather than trying to find him ourselves through lynching potential suspects.

Yeah I bet you would still say that I'm protecting Dee Dee after this post. And SK does indeed have toughness which is why I'm trying to get him lynched. That way it would expand our options next round- you are providing the village with delusional hopes.
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I call both Dee Dee and Ultor out on being Mafia.

Of Course you would call me a mafia. I've noticed that while you are replying to my posts, you are only pointing out the negative, unlikely sides of it. You are not proposing a fix or anything useful for the village at all. In fact, I don't even think you care about the village in this game.

I also wanted to make a post about NumBle, but sadly I do not have the time right now and I'm getting stronger vibes from SiX instead. Hopefully I can come up with something about NumBle tomorrow.

For now, I believe that it's best for the vig to shoot both Dee Dee and Blaze. We lynch SiX. If lynching SiX is not possible, then I'd recommend using the other shot on him. I still believe that Blaze should be killed.


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#265 Post Re: Mafia XXXII: Cash Craze Isolate
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I also wanted to make a post about NumBle, but sadly I do not have the time right now and I'm getting stronger vibes from SiX instead. Hopefully I can come up with something about NumBle tomorrow.
You know, you could have just said "I've got nothing on Numble, so I'm waiting to somehow come up with something completely retarded to throw him under the bus". But I guess that works too.

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#266 Post Re: Mafia XXXII: Cash Craze Isolate
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I also wanted to make a post about NumBle, but sadly I do not have the time right now and I'm getting stronger vibes from SiX instead. Hopefully I can come up with something about NumBle tomorrow.
You know, you could have just said "I've got nothing on Numble, so I'm waiting to somehow come up with something completely retarded to throw him under the bus". But I guess that works too.

Yeah, keep denying my accusations as retarded maybe it will get you somewhere,


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#267 Post Re: Mafia XXXII: Cash Craze Isolate
[[vote blaze]

You wear your make up, bitch.

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#268 Post Re: Mafia XXXII: Cash Craze Isolate
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Ultor wrote:
I also wanted to make a post about NumBle, but sadly I do not have the time right now and I'm getting stronger vibes from SiX instead. Hopefully I can come up with something about NumBle tomorrow.
You know, you could have just said "I've got nothing on Numble, so I'm waiting to somehow come up with something completely retarded to throw him under the bus". But I guess that works too.

Yeah, keep denying my accusations as retarded maybe it will get you somewhere,

Maybe if you hadn't stoked your ego so much you'll realize that your words aren't the world's truth and start taking into account what people actually say. That's why I keep saying that your... "accusations" which you still haven't made none towards myself (big surprise to only accuse me of something now honestly) are retarded.

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#269 Post Re: Mafia XXXII: Cash Craze Isolate
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Maybe if you hadn't stoked your ego so much you'll realize that your words aren't the world's truth and start taking into account what people actually say. That's why I keep saying that your... "accusations" which you still haven't made none towards myself (big surprise to only accuse me of something now honestly) are retarded.

What ego? I'm playing the game and making those judgemental posts based on the information going around, checking how certain people respond to those arguments. I'm not making anything up. Just because you can't read or see those patterns, it doesn't mean you should call it retarded. And what's this world's truth thing about? I've already told you that I will explain why I thought you might be the SK/Maifa tomorrow.

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You wear your make up, bitch.

And why aren't you voting Dee Dee?


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#270 Post Re: Mafia XXXII: Cash Craze Isolate
This game is beyond the true meaning of cancer.

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