I apologie for being afk all the time' i was busy in work and got some problems with my net.
Anyway, by reading thé previous posts i didn't find anything that can help me out to find these mafia.
The most suspicious person that could be the serial killer is kontra so i am gonna vote him now but i could change my vote.
[Vote K0ntRa]
[S2] Mafia XXIX: Defibrilation
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SweedyGonzales
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Re: Mafia XXIX: Defibrilation
Explain how I was tricked.K0ntRa wrote:[vote SweedyGonzales]
Spoiler!This conversation lasted for a couple of minutes, he was being really slow on responding, it took him a minute or two to respond. I tricked him wellMafia confirmed! Btw I tried this on Leo too, but he was smart enough to not get tricked. Oh and, I'm not really the cop, guys
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Re: Mafia XXIX: Defibrilation
Read the conversation again. It took you a minute or two to respond, even tho you were online at the time and not ingame or anything. By saying "I dont believe you", you pretty much admitted being mafia. If you're not mafia you would've said "Nice try" or "Yeah right". Then you claimed to be a villager, but you didn't deny my peek. Then you made a joke.SweedyGonzales wrote:Explain how I was tricked.K0ntRa wrote:[vote SweedyGonzales]
Spoiler!This conversation lasted for a couple of minutes, he was being really slow on responding, it took him a minute or two to respond. I tricked him well
Rip.
Could you explain why could I be the SK? Just wondering.I apologie for being afk all the time' i was busy in work and got some problems with my net.
Anyway, by reading thé previous posts i didn't find anything that can help me out to find these mafia.
The most suspicious person that could be the serial killer is kontra so i am gonna vote him now but i could change my vote.
[Vote K0ntRa]
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SweedyGonzales
- Posts: 71
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Re: Mafia XXIX: Defibrilation
Based on previous activity, why would i believe you are a cop?K0ntRa wrote:Read the conversation again. It took you a minute or two to respond, even tho you were online at the time and not ingame or anything. By saying "I dont believe you", you pretty much admitted being mafia. If you're not mafia you would've said "Nice try" or "Yeah right". Then you claimed to be a villager, but you didn't deny my peek. Then you made a joke.SweedyGonzales wrote:Explain how I was tricked.K0ntRa wrote:[vote SweedyGonzales]
Spoiler!This conversation lasted for a couple of minutes, he was being really slow on responding, it took him a minute or two to respond. I tricked him well
Rip.
Could you explain why could I be the SK? Just wondering.I apologie for being afk all the time' i was busy in work and got some problems with my net.
Anyway, by reading thé previous posts i didn't find anything that can help me out to find these mafia.
The most suspicious person that could be the serial killer is kontra so i am gonna vote him now but i could change my vote.
[Vote K0ntRa]
You're getting pretty uppity. Maybe not everyone responds the same way you do
[Vote K0ntRa]
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Re: Mafia XXIX: Defibrilation
Alright ..
I'm a Doctor... the other Doc, pls contact me ASAP.
I'm a Doctor... the other Doc, pls contact me ASAP.
Re: Mafia XXIX: Defibrilation
I don't have any scum reads on K0ntRa. I genuinely think he's a Town Member for three reasons:
(1) His Doctor-no-save statements is legit coming from a Town Member. But of course, the Mafia could also use that argument to appear more Town-like. But that would be a Hater strategy, not a K0ntRa one (but then again, what do I know about K0ntra? I haven't played with him before).
(2) His cop claim in Steam, trying to bait the "newbies" into claiming Mafia. If he truly was Mafia, there would be no point in claiming such a thing to town members. Experienced or not, they know they are not Mafia. Therefore this seems more like a townish thing to do, trying to bait newcomers into revealing something they shouldn't have.
(3) He draws too much attention to him. Mafia typically sit back, watching, rather than engaging. I find that he's too active to be a Mafia.
I highly encourage to stop the bandwagon on K0ntRa, lets find someone else instead.
(1) His Doctor-no-save statements is legit coming from a Town Member. But of course, the Mafia could also use that argument to appear more Town-like. But that would be a Hater strategy, not a K0ntRa one (but then again, what do I know about K0ntra? I haven't played with him before).
(2) His cop claim in Steam, trying to bait the "newbies" into claiming Mafia. If he truly was Mafia, there would be no point in claiming such a thing to town members. Experienced or not, they know they are not Mafia. Therefore this seems more like a townish thing to do, trying to bait newcomers into revealing something they shouldn't have.
(3) He draws too much attention to him. Mafia typically sit back, watching, rather than engaging. I find that he's too active to be a Mafia.
I highly encourage to stop the bandwagon on K0ntRa, lets find someone else instead.
Re: Mafia XXIX: Defibrilation
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
I'm pretty sure he's not cop, SiX, for reasons Sweedy's already covered.
And there are a hundred different ways to play mafia, sitting back is only one of them.
There are enough people who actively came forward, rallied support, and began to command bandwagons, as Mafia.
HATER (and the fire-and-brimstone speeches which give reason to his name) was pretty good at that.
K0ntRa, not so much.
I'm pretty sure he's not cop, SiX, for reasons Sweedy's already covered.
And there are a hundred different ways to play mafia, sitting back is only one of them.
There are enough people who actively came forward, rallied support, and began to command bandwagons, as Mafia.
HATER (and the fire-and-brimstone speeches which give reason to his name) was pretty good at that.
K0ntRa, not so much.
Re: Mafia XXIX: Defibrilation
This isn't about him being Cop. It's about him fake claiming Cop as a Town Member. I've listed the reasons for this in my post above, especially point (2)
Let us assume K0ntRa is Mafia. Then this is what he just did: He went over to speak with Leo and SweedyGonzales, two players who seem relatively new to the nD WW community (correct me if I'm wrong). As a Mafia member, he knows full well they aren't Mafia. Yet he finds it a good idea to fake claim Cop, accusing them of being Mafia. For what? Because he wants to bait a reaction out of them. Notice in his conversation; he never fake claimed cop to ask for roles. He fake claimed Cop to bait a reaction. How do they react when accused of being Mafia? Since K0ntRa knows that they are Town Members, there would be absolutely nothing else than a: "Wtf? I'm Town member" reply he would get in return. Instead, he would gain their distrust and perhaps accused of fake claiming Cop, resulting in him being lynched. Him baiting a reaction of seemingly inexperienced nD players, as a town member, makes perfect sense. Therefore I can only conclude that K0ntRa is a Town Member (or SK, but I wouldn't bet on that). Either way, There was absolutely nothing in this for him if he was a Mafia. On the other hand, there was something in this for him if he is a Town Member.(2) His cop claim in Steam, trying to bait the "newbies" into claiming Mafia. If he truly was Mafia, there would be no point in claiming such a thing to town members. Experienced or not, they know they are not Mafia. Therefore this seems more like a townish thing to do, trying to bait newcomers into revealing something they shouldn't have.
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SweedyGonzales
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Re: Mafia XXIX: Defibrilation
K0ntRa can we have your logs with Leo?
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Need to read up on replies [vote nolynch] for now
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I'd like to point something out in Kontra's logs with Sweedy...
Now I'd like to point out that it is true the Mafia shoots and the SK stabs. But still doesn't mean that Sweedy is an actual mafia.
Point being, your logic is clearly flawned here Kontra. Not only you claimed to be something you're not, (cop) while you also want to enforce a lynch on who seems to me a villager.
I don't really see any use for this convo. Kontra tried to bait Sweedy to claim mafia which kinda seems forceful? I mean if sweedy were to agree he'd be mafia. But he denied it and Kontra still said "Mafia confirmed". Also I'm pretty sure that Sweedy is smart enough to realize that RANDOM NEGATIVE means it'll be 100% villager and impossible to be a Mafia.K0ntRa wrote:[vote SweedyGonzales]
Spoiler!This conversation lasted for a couple of minutes, he was being really slow on responding, it took him a minute or two to respond. I tricked him well
Now I'd like to point out that it is true the Mafia shoots and the SK stabs. But still doesn't mean that Sweedy is an actual mafia.
Point being, your logic is clearly flawned here Kontra. Not only you claimed to be something you're not, (cop) while you also want to enforce a lynch on who seems to me a villager.
You try to give your love away because you cannot bear its radiance, but you cannot separate it from yourself. To understand your fellow humans, you must understand why you give them your love. You must realize that hate is but a crime-ridden subdivision of love. You must reclaim what you never lost. You must take leave of your sanity, and yet be fully responsible for your actions.
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Re: Mafia XXIX: Defibrilation
I don't think he knows about this... he would've said it alreadyNumBle wrote:I'd like to point something out in Kontra's logs with Sweedy...
I don't really see any use for this convo. Kontra tried to bait Sweedy to claim mafia which kinda seems forceful? I mean if sweedy were to agree he'd be mafia. But he denied it and Kontra still said "Mafia confirmed". Also I'm pretty sure that Sweedy is smart enough to realize that RANDOM NEGATIVE means it'll be 100% villager and impossible to be a Mafia.K0ntRa wrote:[vote SweedyGonzales]
Spoiler!This conversation lasted for a couple of minutes, he was being really slow on responding, it took him a minute or two to respond. I tricked him well
Now I'd like to point out that it is true the Mafia shoots and the SK stabs. But still doesn't mean that Sweedy is an actual mafia.
Point being, your logic is clearly flawned here Kontra. Not only you claimed to be something you're not, (cop) while you also want to enforce a lynch on who seems to me a villager.
I think I'll [vote sweedy] until ppl start talking and we start knowing..
Re: Mafia XXIX: Defibrilation
I was swimming so I wasn't able to respond to most of you in time. Will do it now;
First of all, you guys misunderstood me, I never claimed cop. I tried to trick Leo and Sweedy by claiming it, but I thought it was obvious that I'm not really claiming it.
I'm not the cop!
Of course he denied it, everyone would. But it took him a minute or two to respond and his responses were extremely suspicious.
He's a newcomer, thus I hoped he might not remember that. He hasn't mentioned it to me btw.
He doesn't seem to be a villager to me. Au contraire, it seems to me that he is mafia. I will not change my vote because he was being super duper suspicious in that conversation.
First of all, you guys misunderstood me, I never claimed cop. I tried to trick Leo and Sweedy by claiming it, but I thought it was obvious that I'm not really claiming it.
I'm not the cop!
Yeah I misunderstood HATER cuz of that "not" and "not X" statement. Well it doesn't really matter now.Lawliet wrote:
I don't think he knows about this... he would've said it already
I think I'll [vote sweedy] until ppl start talking and we start knowing..
Sure thingSweedyGonzales wrote:K0ntRa can we have your logs with Leo?
Spoiler!
NumBle wrote:I don't really see any use for this convo. Kontra tried to bait Sweedy to claim mafia which kinda seems forceful? I mean if sweedy were to agree he'd be mafia. But he denied it and Kontra still said "Mafia confirmed". Also I'm pretty sure that Sweedy is smart enough to realize that RANDOM NEGATIVE means it'll be 100% villager and impossible to be a Mafia.
Now I'd like to point out that it is true the Mafia shoots and the SK stabs. But still doesn't mean that Sweedy is an actual mafia.
Point being, your logic is clearly flawned here Kontra. Not only you claimed to be something you're not, (cop) while you also want to enforce a lynch on who seems to me a villager.
Of course he denied it, everyone would. But it took him a minute or two to respond and his responses were extremely suspicious.
He's a newcomer, thus I hoped he might not remember that. He hasn't mentioned it to me btw.
He doesn't seem to be a villager to me. Au contraire, it seems to me that he is mafia. I will not change my vote because he was being super duper suspicious in that conversation.
Re: Mafia XXIX: Defibrilation
My thoughts on certain people:
Mystic:
http://www.neondragon.net/isolation.php ... 4&pid=2194
You haven't said much to convince me that you are a villager.
Crisp0:
http://www.neondragon.net/isolation.php ... 4&pid=7262
Sweedy:
http://www.neondragon.net/isolation.php ... 4&pid=8009
http://www.neondragon.net/viewtopic.php ... 09#p469009
Ultor:
http://www.neondragon.net/isolation.php ... 4&pid=7432
Let me know what you think on whats happened/been posted so far.
WaywardVole:
http://www.neondragon.net/isolation.php ... 4&pid=7229
What are your thoughts so far on this game??
Lawliet:
http://www.neondragon.net/isolation.php ... 4&pid=6191
ApeKiller:
http://www.neondragon.net/isolation.php ... 4&pid=4863
Have you read up so far? What do you think of this recent round?
Leo:
http://www.neondragon.net/isolation.php ... 4&pid=7345
Do you have anything else to support why you are voting Ultor?
Kontra:
Your last post
What if he was busy with IRL stuff? He doesn't have to reply to you instantly.
Probably missed some peeps, but dont worry your time will come.
Also if you guys have anything let me know via pm/steam~
Mystic:
http://www.neondragon.net/isolation.php ... 4&pid=2194
You haven't said much to convince me that you are a villager.
Crisp0:
http://www.neondragon.net/isolation.php ... 4&pid=7262
Player's voting, players posts should somewhat help you formulate town reads. Why do you think he's suspicious, what makes him suspicious to you?I apologie for being afk all the time' i was busy in work and got some problems with my net.
Anyway, by reading thé previous posts i didn't find anything that can help me out to find these mafia.
The most suspicious person that could be the serial killer is kontra so i am gonna vote him now but i could change my vote.
[Vote K0ntRa]
Sweedy:
http://www.neondragon.net/isolation.php ... 4&pid=8009
Based on your chat logs with Kontra, why did you think it was the SK that killed Ko9? Even though Hater said that the mafia gets a shot, SK gets a stab...K0ntRa: whose idea was it to kill koni
SqueegeeGonzales: dunno
SqueegeeGonzales: if i had to guess i'd say SK
http://www.neondragon.net/viewtopic.php ... 09#p469009
Ultor:
http://www.neondragon.net/isolation.php ... 4&pid=7432
Let me know what you think on whats happened/been posted so far.
WaywardVole:
http://www.neondragon.net/isolation.php ... 4&pid=7229
What are your thoughts so far on this game??
Lawliet:
http://www.neondragon.net/isolation.php ... 4&pid=6191
Dat doctor claim...could be a medic...Alright ..
I'm a Doctor... the other Doc, pls contact me ASAP.
ApeKiller:
http://www.neondragon.net/isolation.php ... 4&pid=4863
Have you read up so far? What do you think of this recent round?
Leo:
http://www.neondragon.net/isolation.php ... 4&pid=7345
Do you have anything else to support why you are voting Ultor?
Kontra:
Your last post
Of course he denied it, everyone would. But it took him a minute or two to respond and his responses were extremely suspicious.
What if he was busy with IRL stuff? He doesn't have to reply to you instantly.
Probably missed some peeps, but dont worry your time will come.
Also if you guys have anything let me know via pm/steam~
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Erm, it's a funny story. Before the game I was strategizing and decided to play it silently. But then there were 3 votes on me in R1, so I had to act. And I was also blabbering too much about the doctor thing. One thing lead to another, so soon some individuals (like ARSENIC) voted me because I was suspicious, but, let's be honest, that was mainly because I posted a lot. I read lots of old games, and people who are active usually get voted out quickly. Oh wellSiX wrote:(3) He draws too much attention to him. Mafia typically sit back, watching, rather than engaging. I find that he's too active to be a Mafia.
Could be, but I doubt it. He wasn't in some game or smt.Ish wrote:What if he was busy with IRL stuff? He doesn't have to reply to you instantly.