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#121 Post Re: Mafia XXVIII: Revenge Isolate
I read everything again and again. I spoke with Ultor and he convinced me to vote for CrisPo. Although, crisPo says that he is not mafia. Sorry crisPo but Ultor and the other guys here convinced me more than you.

[Vote Crisp0]

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HATER - 5 - Numble, CrisP0, Konijn, Sticky, Lawliet
Crisp0 - 5 - HATER, Ish, Ultor, Lo Tus, #BlameItOnLeon

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#122 Post Re: Mafia XXVIII: Revenge Isolate
OH guys/girl was lately a bit busy and now that much votes and infos and more..i hope i made fast a good decission to vote for the right person...im confused, dont wanna loose another villager.

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#123 Post Re: Mafia XXVIII: Revenge Isolate
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HATER - 5 - Numble, CrisP0, Konijn, Sticky, Lawliet
Crisp0 - 5 - HATER, Ish, Ultor, Lo Tus, #BlameItOnLeon


Really?? Really.. I can't even....

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#124 Post Re: Mafia XXVIII: Revenge Isolate
For people that aren't sure what happens in case of a tie the host chose for this game to be LHLV

LHLV - In the event of a tie, the player with the Longest Held Last Vote, or LHLV, is lynched. Basically, the player with the most votes just before the tie is lynched. If a player is tied with No Lynch, no player will be lynched regardless of LHLV.

Meaning if player X and Y have 5 votes on them, the one who got the 5 votes on them first is the one to be lynched.

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#125 Post Re: Mafia XXVIII: Revenge Isolate
[Unvote]
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HATER - 5 - Numble, CrisP0, Konijn, Sticky, Lawliet
Crisp0 - 4 - HATER, Ish, Ultor, #BlameItOnLeon

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#126 Post Re: Mafia XXVIII: Revenge Isolate
dunno why these people voted me without any reasons.
at the first, hater voted for six then last minutes he changed his vote to apekiller without any reasons and what i've seen hat ultor trying hard to protect hater every round.

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#127 Post Re: Mafia XXVIII: Revenge Isolate
CrisP0 wrote:
dunno why these people voted me without any reasons.
at the first, hater voted for six then last minutes he changed his vote to apekiller without any reasons and what i've seen hat ultor trying hard to protect hater every round.


If you read my previous post, you would know why.


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#128 Post Re: Mafia XXVIII: Revenge Isolate
LUL whats goin on here ^^

Why you take your vote away Lotus you are scared that a mafia friend = crispo can be killed and safe him now???

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#129 Post Re: Mafia XXVIII: Revenge Isolate
I will first explain why I have been AFK until now. In R0, there was no voting possible, and the actions taken were mostly behind the scenes, so I didn't check up on the topic. On friday, I completely forgot to check the game. Today, I hadn't had time to browse the forums yet, and only just saw the PM sent by K0ntRa. Thanks for that.

@Ultor: I am really interested in hearing what your reasoning is on lynchvoting Crisp0. First, you stated that you would vote either HATER, Crisp0 or Konijn, and later added that you did not have enough info to lynch vote any one of these three. Then, not even 2 hours later you decided to vote for Crisp0 (instead of the expected lynch, HATER). I wonder what your reasoning was in doing so.

About HATER and the votes on him: It seems like most of the people who lynchvoted HATER this round only named the reason of "changing his vote to Apekiller". This seems like a flimsy reason for me to kill somebody. However, when I think about it a bit more, it makes sense as well. HATER, being the experienced player he is, should know that changing a vote at the last moment (Last few hours of the round) will not cause enough people to change their votes, especially the mafia, because they have no merit in drawing attention to themselves like that. That being said, changing his vote to me also drew a lot of attention to himself, which he also could have expected. Considering that the mafia has no merit in drawing too much attention to themselves, it doesn't seem like a move HATER would make, especially because it also caused him to become a fairly big lynch target. I do agree that he made a mistake by doing this, but he is actually contributing by explaining his views and votes well, unlike many other participants.

As for Crisp0, his reasoning during his lynchvotes was weak. On his first post, he stated that he fully agreed with HATER's reasoning, but then after the round ended he quickly voted for HATER with the reason that he changed his vote which he shouldn't have done.

Because Crisp0 has failed to provide anything but the most basic of reasoning for his lynchvotes, I would currently rather [vote Crisp0] than HATER.

I also find it really odd that Lo Tus removed her vote on Crisp0, without then targeting someone else. Would you mind explaining this?

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HATER - 5 - Numble, CrisP0, Konijn, Sticky, Lawliet
Crisp0 - 5 - HATER, Ish, Ultor, #BlameItOnLeon, Apekiller

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#130 Post Re: Mafia XXVIII: Revenge Isolate
So, I asked Rainboy to look at the thread. He is coming in from a completely objective point of view here -- he knows nothing about the game or anyone's roles besides what's been written in the thread. These were his thoughts:




Rainboy: NUMBLE ACTUALLY READING A HATER WALL
Rainboy: AND RESPONDING?!
Rainboy: WAT
Rainboy: Here I thought I was the only one who read those.
Rainboy: At least, that's what you'd think watching how people reacted to them.
HATER: Xen does too
HATER: [10:23:56 PM] katCrusader: I agree that it seems really silly to vote you off just because of an unintended bandwagon
[10:24:12 PM] katCrusader: You and rain both like using votes as motivators to initiate conversation
Rainboy: ^
HATER: like, after reading my post, am I just going crazy or what?
HATER: I wanted to get an objective view here
Rainboy: Numble's post so far is facepalm-worthy.
Rainboy: I'm not sure if I should laugh, feel sorry, or get angry at this.

Rainboy: "Oh please, Hater we've played countless games where R1 lynch gave us nothing but discarding vanillagers." -Numble 2016
Rainboy: Yes, and we yell at the village every time.
Rainboy: >.>


Rainboy: "You're forgetting the "Finished games" section" -Numble 2016
Rainboy: wat
Rainboy: like
Rainboy: wat
Rainboy: I just...
Rainboy: wat

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#131 Post Re: Mafia XXVIII: Revenge Isolate
I dont know why at the moment but i go this round too for Crispo, i dont wanna risk that Hater and SiX was a villager and all Mafia guys succeded quietly to get them killed. After all gave their vote before mine i can´t do anything wrong in my opinion and if Crispo Comes out as a villager after he died i know on which i focus all my time then next (Hater).

Sry Crispo
[vote Crispo]

HATER - 5 - Numble, CrisP0, Konijn, Sticky, Lawliet
Crisp0 - 6 - HATER, Ish, Ultor, #BlameItOnLeon, Apekiller, Leo

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#132 Post Re: Mafia XXVIII: Revenge Isolate
From a piece of information I now hold, my suspicion now falls upon HATER. therefore I'm changing my vote to HATER.

[vote HATER]

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HATER - 6 - Numble, CrisP0, Konijn, Sticky, Lawliet, Apekiller
Crisp0 - 5 - HATER, Ish, Ultor, #BlameItOnLeon, Leo

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#133 Post Re: Mafia XXVIII: Revenge Isolate
Apekiller wrote:
From a piece of information I now hold, my suspicion now falls upon HATER. therefore I'm changing my vote to HATER.

[vote HATER]

Code:
HATER - 6 - Numble, CrisP0, Konijn, Sticky, Lawliet, Apekiller
Crisp0 - 5 - HATER, Ish, Ultor, #BlameItOnLeon, Leo


...Care to share this information with the rest of the class...?

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#134 Post Re: Mafia XXVIII: Revenge Isolate
I am unable to do so currently.

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#135 Post Re: Mafia XXVIII: Revenge Isolate
This was at 5:45pm:

Lo Tus wrote:
I have read everything from everyone and anaylsed it properly. I think it is safe to vote for crisp0 because at this point we do not really have information.
sooo [vote Crisp0]


At 6:30pm you changed to unvote Crispo??? Can you explain that???

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