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Re: Luna's AppLication

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Jamairo wrote:I think she's doing her best.
I play much whit her.
She always warning people if they do anything against the rules.
Only Con i can think of is that she talk to much in turkish in mic.
I wish u good luck Luna my vote is a Yes
cleary in the rules it says you can talk other language on any server except the jailbreak^^ ( chat is allowed on jb )
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Re: Luna's AppLication

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You are thanking every single post that says something good about you, but any critisism given is not thanked.

Makes me think you either can't take it or are just trying to win votes?
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Jellow wrote:You are thanking every single post that says something good about you, but any critisism given is not thanked.

Makes me think you either can't take it or are just trying to win votes?
Only 1 negative post have been said. Which is from Uhu and his statement is irrelevant, since it was a long time ago and people change during the years. I also wanna note that Uhu may, or may not have done this, but lack of proofs shows he most likely did not do it. Although the fact that there was 2-3 sec going, and in chat he types "lolol" kinda makes me believe he did do it. But not reason to take in the past when the past isn't 2 months ago, but years ago.
Other thing is you, but that wasn't much of a con for her, but more a question on why the rest of us says "activity" which I've already explained and think that is what other people think too.
Then there's the thing with her account too, but now that isn't a problem either, since they both got their own account now.
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Re: Luna's AppLication

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@Kalle, I think he ment me and Watch's post aswell.

And jellow got a point there actually.
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emilitoo wrote:@Kalle, I think he ment me and Watch's post aswell.

And jellow got a point there actually.
You state you remember her as a good member, but cannot give a yes because you haven't played with her recently.
Watch state some cons, true, but also says that people change over several years, which gives the understanding that they might not be totally correct.
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I think the best thing would probably be to extend this application, and give people some more time to play with her. I see her very member-like, but I think several are uncertain on wether she is good or not, because they haven't played with her recently, and last time they played with her was years ago. So people still have the opinion of her, as they had back then.

As you can see here, those who does play with her now, see her as a member. And those who haven't played with her don't see her as a member. Which shows a huge change just their, so people need another month to see how it goes.
But wether she gets accepted or extended I think she will be up for the job.
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kallekanin wrote:
emilitoo wrote:@Kalle, I think he ment me and Watch's post aswell.

And jellow got a point there actually.
You state you remember her as a good member, but cannot give a yes because you haven't played with her recently.
Watch state some cons, true, but also says that people change over several years, which gives the understanding that they might not be totally correct.
And exactly what do you want to tell me here?
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Post by Путинтебяобстрелит »

Wondering.

Why u thank all peopel who u love or giving a good post?
Jellow wrote:You are thanking every single post that says something good about you, but any critisism given is not thanked.

Makes me think you either can't take it or are just trying to win votes?
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Jellow wrote:You are thanking every single post that says something good about you, but any critisism given is not thanked.

Makes me think you either can't take it or are just trying to win votes?
ofc everybody of us try to win votes. i can take critism but ur "negative" posts show me that u dont rlly know me.
or u are just saying the thing with coco.
I already explain this situation in my application. explained few times again in this topic.
I wouldnt make an application when i wouldent be sure.

when u would say something like "Luna your con is that u dont report or your forum activity"
than i would say "thx for reply, i know, i will boost it up"

Jellow; U r saying something about my activity. this is my new account. i came back to germany on july. before i played 1-2 times in a week.
and now im playing for hours in the servers. play 2-3 maps on dr. than i play 3-4 hours , sometime 6-7 hours daily.

Zone; First u say u dont remember me as a member, than u say that i did a good job, and than u say "how i know u as member my vote is blank".
I mean when i did a good job, how can u say that ur vote is blank? u didnt play with me like 1-2 years.

How can ur votes be negative when u didnt play with me? i mean u all played with me 2 years ago. how u know me?
sry but for this i dont thank ;)^^
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Re: Luna's AppLication

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^They voted negative because the time they played with you(2 years ago), maybe they are thinking you was a bad member etc. idk. And they havent played with you recently, so they dont know if luna has changed or not.
So my suggestion is for you is close this apply and be more active with the players and wait 4 months or something and apply again,
then maybe ppl will see that you've been changed from 2 years ago.
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luna llena wrote:
Zone; First u say u dont remember me as a member, than u say that i did a good job, and than u say "how i know u as member my vote is blank".
I mean when i did a good job, how can u say that ur vote is blank? u didnt play with me like 1-2 years.

How can ur votes be negative when u didnt play with me? i mean u all played with me 2 years ago. how u know me?
sry but for this i dont thank ;)^^
emilitoo wrote: Okey I believe you were a jail member before(?) atleast that's how I remember it and you did a good job back then.
I'm almost never at the zombie server so I can't really judge on your in game activity, rule knowledgde etc.
Also I have nothing against you but if im going to judge on the previous posts in this topic and how I remember you as member before I have to vote blank.

Good luck!
Where do I say I dont remember you as an member? read again.
And why I vote blank? Simply beacuse I red the topic and I found your answer immature + only thanking the guys that gives you an yes only shows how your decisions in-game will be unfair (Giving huge special treatments to friends).
Also you don't care about what people actually writes about you and just care about if we are giving you the 3 letter word y-e-s if it's not a yes you simply hate on them its seems.
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luna llena wrote:ofc everybody of us try to win votes. i can take critism but ur "negative" posts show me that u dont rlly know me.
As you know, all the replies on your application are SUBJECTIVE, which means it is peoples opinions.
This comment shows, that you can't take criticism that well, since every body has the right to express THEIR opinion.
People are here to express their opinion, and the thought is that the applicant needs to try to fix the cons mentioned in order to gain member status, INSTEAD of accusing other people, defending themselves etc etc.

I won't vote yes/no since I don't play at zombie, so I don't know how you are as a person / how your activity is.
I just wanted to express my opinion about this
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kallekanin wrote:Only 1 negative post have been said. Which is from Uhu and his statement is irrelevant
I feel like I have to comment at what you just said there. Firstly, Uhu's point isn't really irrelevant because 1) Her brother had access to her account before (past years) and 2) She might say it's safe and that he won't do it again but is there 100% solid confirmation that he never will? I mean she said that before and look at what happened. However, I got one more thing to add.. I'm pretty sure Luna is old and mature enough to back her self up you don't have to go and respond to others about her application, if she wants membership she will have to accept criticism and everything else so Kalle do me a favour and just let her handle her own shit, no offense intended.

But back on-topic I go now, Luna I've played with you and your pretty active and you love to help people in the server. You clearly stand out the crowd and you like socialising with people (don't know if it's cos you're a girl) but carrying on, you're fairly active on the forums and your english is fine. Everyone knows the con you have which is Mr. Coco but apart from that I don't see what's stopping you from being a member except the fact that it seems like you can't take criticism but you can always prove me wrong, you've got my vote.
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I didn't really see a reason for me to reply to this application..
BUT
All of these people are allowed to share their opinion with a decent amount of manner, there is nothing correct/wrong when it comes to opinions. You don't need to tell them that they are wrong or anything similar.
You simply need to show them, because words isn't worth anything to you actually show it.
Also need to agree with the (thank part) it's actually abit silly to thank everyone who's giving you a positive feedback, i'd rather thank the people that are giving you advice so you can become a better moderator.
Nor should you be surprised that some people got bad vibes about you, and so do i at some points (you know the reasons).
Also about people changing, you've told everyone before that you have changed but what is the difference from now?
Your lack of proofs against uhu is also VERY VERY immature in my point of view.
This is too much of a kid behavior in this thread already.

You don't need to reply that i'm wrong or anything, since it's my opinion and it wont be changed to i actually notice a difference.
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Re: Luna's AppLication

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B.K wrote:
luna llena wrote:ofc everybody of us try to win votes. i can take critism but ur "negative" posts show me that u dont rlly know me.
As you know, all the replies on your application are SUBJECTIVE, which means it is peoples opinions.
This comment shows, that you can't take criticism that well, since every body has the right to express THEIR opinion.
People are here to express their opinion, and the thought is that the applicant needs to try to fix the cons mentioned in order to gain member status, INSTEAD of accusing other people, defending themselves etc etc.

I won't vote yes/no since I don't play at zombie, so I don't know how you are as a person / how your activity is.
I just wanted to express my opinion about this
B.K look u cant vote yes or no cuz u dont know me right? thats what i mean. they dont know me and they vote negative.
i can take critism. im mature enough. but their "negative things" about me are like 2 years ago. I mean how can u say negatives about me when u dont know me, right? ;) thats my point. ofc everybody has their opinion. ppl said "boost ur forum activity" i said "you are right this is a con of me" ppl said "do more reports" i said "ofc u are right this is another con of me"

You guys are "thinking" on me. that im bad that im not mature etc. but "thinking" is not that I am like this?
thinking doesnt show my "realy" charackter?

You know, im playing since 2009 in the servers. I always helped in game. Its also in real life. when i see a conflict i have to handle.
i cant play just normal when 2 person are fighting. i cant play when there is a harasser blocker etc.
When admins decide to not giving me the membership , its fine.
So i will handle it like now. when i see a conlict i will warn these guys. when they continue i will call a member. when there is no member than im gonna report. 2-3 years i did it like this and will do it like this.
When the admins would give me the membership i would handle it myself without loosing time. the players in game would be glad and i would be glad that the problem is solved. ;)
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Re: Luna's AppLication

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Pros
  • Many nights I see you playing at zombie although you're playing very often only recently so you're active
  • Your rule knowledge is flawless, not that hard on zombie but I'm sure you still know the rules from jail and every other server from back when you were a moderator.
  • Known by(some of) the community because I see many reply to you, and in a friendly manner.
  • Friendly as you have a good relation with regulars/members/admins.
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  • Not sure how long this activity will last as it seems to me as a boost to become member and a inevitable afk will come if this is achieved.
Cons
  • From your argumentation I can see you don't take advices you don't agree with, or try to understand opinions who differ from yours. Together with thanking every post that favors you and putting aside the ones that don't, I see you biased, stubborn and unable to work in a team(sometimes need to step over your ego to manage this).
  • Not really sure if your coco issue is really gone because: a) you've said that many times and even lied at one point to try to keep your membership, and that lie wasn't more of less different from the arguments you use now so I can't really tell a difference; b) I still see him at server rulebreaking(just banned him today) and I'm not sure if his persistence on using your account has totally stopped. Plus your biased behaviour I mentioned gives me difficulty in giving you the benefit of doubt on this coco issue.
  • Also coming from the biased comment I wrote: You might give special threatment to your friends in-game and let them go if they rule-break. Might not be the case but it's the impression I get based on the protective comments I see here from your friends and the thanks reply you give them while ignoring other less favoring comments.
  • Lack of judgment quality, I can't accept being seen as a blocker because of that poor evidence, and the fact that I worked very hard to not block anyone and always helped out if someone needed while we didn't have semiclip at zombie.
  • Also have no idea how you came up with this idea: "Uhu, u was also n1 blocker in zm. Now? u are admin". If this was true I'd have been reported many times and my application would have many persons accusing me of blocking. That said I can't trust zombie powers to someone who can't differ what is block from what isn't, and on top creates this sort of "fame" to people who never have done intentional bad things.
Conclusion: These cons might not be that significant but we are not in a real need for a lot of zombie members os I rather keep the quality up. If you can't work with other people who you disagree and have a huge protective behaviour I'll find it hard to trust you member powers. Work on those cons and we'll see.
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