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#9 (ISO #1)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell
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#27 (ISO #2)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell
Numble wrote:
Romeo wrote:
Katika VS wrote:
Numble wrote:
ARSENIC wrote:
I'm never gonna live that down, am I

Nope. You've become a meme. Everyone's a meme somehow.

Am I a meme? :p

I had the same question

you are both memes.

Pffff Numbledore

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#29 (ISO #3)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell
Romeo wrote:
Romeo dying before Juliet and then Juliet killing herself after him is a meme? Or that my name was used by Karn in the past? Or is it that I have a crazy personality that is ridiculous?

I'll kill you first

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#102 (ISO #4)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell [Round 0 ends 01:00 GMT Saturday]
Mystic wrote:
SweedyGonzales wrote:
One of the majors that Mendel revealed is correct, but it's a pretty obvious major tbh. I'm not TD, so can't confirm the other. Leaving the other factions out seems odd.
Mendel, care to explain your suicidal tendencies?

Sweedy is most likely a barren frosts player. He deliberately kept open 2 options so that players of scorching would also attempt to connect with him, thereby infiltrating their realm. For now I suggest nobody peek Sweedy. Apart from barren players ofcourse. Since I think the Infiltrate mechanic is really strong (they instantly know all of your team's info basically) I am leaning towards trying to get Sweedy lynched.

I support this idea even though I like the things Cruxell pointed out a few posts ago about Mendel's claim(Thought I would never say this). Sweedy's post looks like a claim to be a part of the BF realm. Ideally it would make sense to get rid of early game fractions first - because they just are that stronger than the rest at this point - until we have a lead on the late-game ones.

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#139 (ISO #5)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell [Round 1 Day ends 21:00 GMT Sunday]
Numble wrote:
This brings back what I had said earlier: This can be info you've gotten from your little previous stunt and just easily "baited" a whole faction to claim to you.

I highly doubt that this is the case. It would be pretty naive, leaning towards stupid, to go ahead and claim to him just because of his public realm claim (if you are from a different realm ofc.).

Numble wrote:
Somebody correct me but, what Mendel did was a master bait on the Twisted Depths faction in my opinion. It just got out of control cuz either:

1- He doesn't want to reveal his own possible Major and Disparity

2- He's actually attempting to hold some info for himself in an attempt of further manipulation and/or negotiation.

It's just what it seems to me.


I think the two things Numble said here makes sense. It looks to as he is trying to somewhat control the game while not giving up much about his own realm. Things are getting out of control.

Mendel wrote:
I'll [vote Ultor] for the constant insinuation that a realm has 5 players. You've been told it's not true, dude, look it up. The one realm that profits from spreading this misinformation is Barren Frosts.

I don't think voting someone for being misinformed in an unusual setup is a valid reason to vote someone out now (even though I would love to see Ultor dead, <3).

I'm leaning towards voting Mendel for the reasons Ultor and Numble already provided, but is more tempted to vote Sweedy now because of what looks like a BF claim from R0. It doesn't make much sense to me to keep BF alive when they are pretty strong early game.
I also don't appreciate their Major special (provided by Mendel's ISO#12) and it makes me itchy in the wrong places.

[vote SweedyGonzales] for now.

Code:
Ultor - 1 - Mendel
Patrick - 1 - Romeo,
Mendel - 3 - Ultor, Numble, Fred
SweedyGonzales - 1 - Patrick
No vote (will be moved to self at the end of the round) - 14 - Cruxell, Blaze, Lawliet, Wertydoo, Maki, Mystic, Katika VS, ARSENIC, SweedyGonzales, Cap_H, UnwaveringGrey, AnOddGuy, MMage, WaywardVole


Feel free to provide any reasons to why I should change my vote and I might consider it.

Spoiler: show
Kinda feeling bad for voting Sweedy every game though...


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#140 (ISO #6)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell [Round 1 Day ends 21:00 GMT Sunday]
Also, I would like to see some of the more experienced players in Boswell games share their thoughts. My mind is elsewhere so everything looks a bit chaotic to me, but it would be nice to see the thoughts of MMage, Blaze, etc. as well as the other guys who didn't post yet.

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#155 (ISO #7)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell [Round 1 Day ends 21:00 GMT Sunday]
MMage wrote:
((this is old; from before Sweedy claimed SS but holy shit I just need to post this wall so w/e))
As for Patrick voting Sweedy with a presumed claim vs Mendel who actually straight-up claimed: Your assurance that Mendel was at the top of your list doesn't really mean anything without prior actions (votes) behind it, so I'm more inclined to believe you just want to shift the spotlight off of Mendel by offering Sweedy as another team-confirmed target. That could mean you want TD's favor, or that you yourself are TD (and don't want to lose a teammate). Maybe you should go more in-depth on why you think Sweedy is BF to persuade the rest of us rather than just a little to provide context for a vote.

Read #99 and #101 and you have my reason to think that Sweedy was a BF player.
As for why I didn't vote Mendel I already explained; I'm worried about the BF Major Special and there must be a good reason to why BF is considered an early game realm in the setup.

Mendel wrote:
tl;dr The Setup
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KZm ... sp=sharing
These are the notes I made when I worked through the setup. It's building on an understanding of general mafia concepts and the notion that if I want to know something in detail (e.g. the names the hosts made up), I need to refer back to the original post. (They're complete enough for me, but they may not be complete enough for you.) This is the version from before I got my role PM, so it shouldn't indicate my alignment.
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Connections: Some roles have the "Identify" ability, allowing them to check each turn to see if another player is part of their realm. If that player is part of their realm, those two players become "connected" and will share pms from the host. Peeker and target gain +1 influence on connection. Influence is listed by realm at dawn.

Poison roleblocks and kills on the round following its application. Roleblock suspends passives.

Curse kills when either player dies (target knows), unprotectable

Each realm has (unblockable!)
  • a passive ability (that automatically applies to all its member from the beginning of the game)
  • a Minor Special (available to use when two or more players of that realm have been connected)
  • a Major Special (available and announced publicly when 3 or more members of that realm become connected)
  • a Disparity (a powerful ability that automatically is revealed and available when there is only one living player remaining in a realm.)
  • nightkill if it has the least influence

If a player has not voted at the end of the round, they will automatically vote for themselves.

  • Day: Prelock -> Influence Locked -> Influence Gifts -> Lynch
  • Night: Roleblocks -> Protection -> Kills ? Curse Kills -> Manipulation -> Peeks -> Realm Power Activations -> Influence Unlocked
Manipulation = Influence trade, Role trade, Zombie reanimation, Zombie reconstruction

Barren Frosts - Mimic
Assassin: Identify; 1-shot Roleblock; if killed: Retaliate; unblockable immunity to poison/curse
Wizard: Identify; Revelation = realm or influence peek; 1-shot non-self curse (kills on death)
Merchant: Trade influence, 1-shot influence Census, 1-shot secret vote
Physician: Identify; Medicine=protect (limits: self, repeat); 1-shot lynch immunity;

Special 0: Infiltration (always connects on Identify, connection broken on role block and realm peek)
Special 2+: immunity for not-connected players
Special 3+:
Special 1:

Scorching Sands – vote manipulation
Knight: Shield=bodyguard; 1-shot immunity; tough
Wizard: Identify; Revelation = realm/influence cop; 1-shot curse (kills on death)
Merchant: Trade influence, permanent secret vote, 1-shot influence Census
Physician: Identify; Medicine=protect (limits: self, repeat); 1-shot lynch immunity;

Special 0: Voting connection
Special 2+: influence max player has immunity to poison/curse, does not count for nightkill
Special 3+:
Special 1:

Twisted Depths – Trade roles
Assassin: Identify; 1-shot kill; if killed: Retaliate; unblockable immunity to poison/curse
Knight: Shield=bodyguard; 1-shot immunity; tough
Wizard: Identify; Revelation = realm/influence cop; 1-shot curse (kills on death)
Physician: Identify; Medicine=protect (limits: self, repeat); 1-shot lynch immunity;

Special 0: Major Specials known; rearrange roles
Special 2+: factional roleblock, absolutely non-repeatable
Special 3+:
Special 1:

Desolate Falls - Poison
Assassin: Identify; 1-shot Roleblock; if killed: Retaliate; unblockable immunity to poison/curse
Knight: Shield=doctor; 1-shot immunity; tough
Wizard: Identify; Revelation = realm/influence cop; 1-shot curse (kills on death)
Merchant: Trade influence, 1-shot secret vote, 1-shot influence Census

Special 0: immune to role block
Special 2+: poison, triggers when special deactivates
Special 3+:
Special 1:

Retribution - Zombies
Assassin: Identify; 1-shot Roleblock; if killed: Retaliate; unblockable immunity to poison/curse
Knight: Shield=bodyguard; 1-shot immunity; tough
Merchant: Trade influence, 1-shot secret vote, 1-shot influence Census
Physician: Identify; Necromancer=redirect kill on zombie; Medicine=protect (limits: self, repeat); 1-shot lynch immunity;

Zombie:loses 1-shots, keeps perma-active as 1-shot, immune to roleblock, poison, protection, keeps connections but does not count for specials, can vote, starts with 1 Influence

Special 0: revive as zombie, retain 1-shot
Special 2+: additional 1-shots for chosen zombie
Special 3+:
Special 1:

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#156 (ISO #8)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell [Round 1 Day ends 21:00 GMT Sunday]
We still have a lot of players who didn't contribute or post anything yet though.
Round 1 is almost over guys!

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#158 (ISO #9)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell [Round 1 Day ends 21:00 GMT Sunday]
HATER wrote:
Patrick wrote:
We still have a lot of players who didn't contribute or post anything yet though.
Round 1 is almost over guys!

Still about 24 hours and 20 minutes left in Round 1. This is not to say that players should not become active, but just to be clear, the round is around halfway over.

Oh shit .. thats what happens when the title gets changed midround hahahaha

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#195 (ISO #10)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell [Round 1 Day ends 21:00 GMT Sunday]
Romeo wrote:
Maki wrote:
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Romeo wrote:
Ok, I will probably have to catch up since I had a busy day yesterday, but just looking at some of the posts, I found out that Sweedy has claimed in public, so why not just take the chance and kill him since he might be trouble for 3 of the realms and even his own realm, he is/will cause a lot of confusion, so might as well...

[Vote Sweedy]


Code:
Mendel - 7 - Ultor, Numble, Fred, SweedyGonzales, AnOddGuy, Katika VS, Maki
Fred - 1 - Cruxell
SweedyGonzales - 8 - Patrick, mendel, MMage, Wertydoo, UnwaveringGrey, Lawliet, ARSENIC, Romeo
No vote (self vote) - 4 - Blaze, , Mystic, Cap_H, WaywardVole


Expected LHLV: SweedyGonzales


Read what I said over and over again, I meant it to look like this.


Romeo wrote:
NO EDIT BUTTON SO....Corrected vote tally:

Code:
Mendel - 7 - Ultor, Numble, Fred, SweedyGonzales, AnOddGuy, Katika VS, Maki
Fred - 1 - Cruxell
SweedyGonzales - 8 - Patrick, mendel, MMage, Wertydoo, UnwaveringGrey, Lawliet, ARSENIC, Romeo
No vote (self vote) - 4 - Blaze, , Mystic, Cap_H, WaywardVole

Expected LHLV: SweedyGonzales


your tally doesn't include Cruxell's latest vote, please fix.
Are you high? Crux has only voted for Fred and that is on there!??????


He voted Mendel in #187...

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#264 (ISO #11)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell [Round 1 Day ends 21:00 GMT Sunday]
[vote Mendel]
Pretty straight forward until something else pops up

Code:
Mendel - 1 - Patrick
No vote (self vote) - 18 - Mystic, Ultor, Numble, Fred, Katika VS, Maki, Cruxell, Mendel, MMage, Wertydoo, UnwaveringGrey, Lawliet, ARSENIC, Romeo, WaywardVole, AnOddGuy, Cap_H, Blaze


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#266 (ISO #12)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell [Round 1 Day ends 21:00 GMT Sunday]
Numble wrote:
Patrick wrote:
[vote Mendel]
Pretty straight forward until something else pops up

Code:
Mendel - 1 - Patrick
No vote (self vote) - 18 - Mystic, Ultor, Numble, Fred, Katika VS, Maki, Cruxell, Mendel, MMage, Wertydoo, UnwaveringGrey, Lawliet, ARSENIC, Romeo, WaywardVole, AnOddGuy, Cap_H, Blaze

Uh boi, its currently night phase.

Might as well keep it there during the night phase, dw. I'll update it when next day begins.

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#306 (ISO #13)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell [Round 1 Day ends 21:00 GMT Sunday]
Ultor wrote:
2 potential teammates is safer than lynching a 100% confirmed enemy? I won't be lynching Mendel because TD's physician used adrenaline ability so it would be a waste of a lynch. It's best if everyone agrees to use the night kill on him. Too early to find a better target.

It's indeed very likely that the TD's physician used the adrenaline ability because Mendel would be an obvious lynch-target in this round. It's a bit of a gamble to go for a lynch when it probably wont go through.

As for Mendel, I don't understand why you are voting Katika when she is a potential teammate of Sweedy. Ideally we should target another realm to keep the game somewhat balanced and to avoid you guys getting even more powerful from the connections you made.
TD is not the only realm with the adrenaline ability, but was the most likely to use that ability in the previous round because of the position Mendel is in.

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#346 (ISO #14)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell [Round 1 Day ends 21:00 GMT Sunday]
Ultor wrote:
Remember that SS haven't even reached major, they are not at the same threat level as TD who are constantly gaining influence and powers.

My personal guess:
TD- Mendel, Patrick, Lawliet, Blaze

Can I ask where you got these names from? Looks like one of the usual Ultor-plays where you change the list millions of times per. round. Earlier you also linked me to Mendel on discord and I never got an answer why?

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#365 (ISO #15)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell [Round 1 Day ends 21:00 GMT Sunday]
Ultor wrote:
Blaze is clearly a TD guys why aren't u voting him instead of Mendel who has immunity to lynch?

Again.. reason? You asked me to help you lynch Lawliet yesterday and now you are asking me to lynch Blaze?

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#369 (ISO #16)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell [Round 1 Day ends 21:00 GMT Sunday]
Ultor wrote:
Patrick wrote:
Ultor wrote:
Blaze is clearly a TD guys why aren't u voting him instead of Mendel who has immunity to lynch?

Again.. reason? You asked me to help you lynch Lawliet yesterday and now you are asking me to lynch Blaze?

Check this post for the reasoning http://www.neondragon.net/viewtopic.php ... 17#p542017. Have you went over Lawliets posts? If so what do u think?

It's not like Blaze has been doing anything unusual in this game. Your reason is that he is AFK and therefore didn't contact Mendel yet, fair enough. Problem is that this applies to more people in the game (Anoddguy, Freddy, MMage, Lawliet, ...). Not defending him nor against a lynch on him, I just wanted the reasoning behind. Thanks for the link, completely missed that when I wrote my post above.

As for Lawliet, I think he was somewhat defending Mendel a bit in the beginning but that it's justified by the priorities of lynching a BF/SS player first. He seems to agree with what we both said about Mendel and his physician most likely having used the adrenaline on him. I'd like to see his list of potential TD players before placing my vote though.

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#371 (ISO #17)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell [Round 1 Day ends 21:00 GMT Sunday]
Blaze wrote:
Gamerelated pot 4. Im telling u all right now, i really dont know my realm yet. And thats the truth.

Everything everyone says i accusations only. Wqnt to take the risk to kill one of your own? Feel free to do it

How can you not know what realm you are yet?

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#374 (ISO #18)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell [Round 2 Day ends 21:00 GMT Tuesday]
[vote Blaze] till something else comes up. Better to vote out the troll than not voting.

Code:
Mendel - 2 - Katika VS, AnOddGuy
Blaze - 2 - Ultor, Patrick
Katika VS - 1 - Mendel
Waywardvole - 1 - Cap_H

No Vote (self vote) - 12 - ARSENIC, Blaze, Cruxell, Lawliet, Maki, MMage, Mystic, Numble, UnwaveringGrey, WaywardVole, Wertydoo, Freddy


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#499 (ISO #19)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell [Round 3 Day ends 21:00 GMT Thursday]
Lawliet wrote:
I'm with lynching a DF to force them into using their shot this round or risk losing it. I believe their shot would become more effective as the game progresses. Forcing them into using it now would increase the chances of not hitting a significant player of any realm. Lynching a DF should be in every other realm interest. SS has already lost a member and can lose another to NK if they don't snatch it this round (going by the assumption they aren't the realm with the lowest influences). We don't have to force them into controlling the lynch. They can have the NK, still better than fucking with the lynch. As for Ret., not worried about them this round, being the only realm with no major special makes them less significant for now.
Between lynching AnOddGuy, Grey and Cruxell.. first for being peeked as DF and the other 2 for getting strong DF reads on them.
With that being said, I'll[vote cruxell] for now.

I agree with what Lawliet said above here. I do however think that going for Cruxell would be a bit of a gamble when we have a "confirmed" DF player from werty's claim in AnOddGuy and we still can't be sure about what realm Cruxell belongs to.

I might have missed something obvious, but do we have any kind of information about Retributions' major special? Surely @Mendel and TD should be able to give some kind of info about it?

For now I'll go with the claim-peek from werty and [vote AnOddGuy].

Code:
AnOddGuy - 3 - Wertydoo, Arsenic, Patrick
Katika_VS - 3 - AnOddGuy, Mendel, Cruxell
Ultor - 1 - UnwaveringGrey
UnwaveringGrey- 2 - Ultor, Emziek
Cruxell - 1 - Lawliet
No Vote - 7 - Katika VS, MMage, WaywardVole, Mystic, Cap_H, Maki, Numble


Edit: Fixed tally

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#644 (ISO #20)  Re: WW XXVII: The Remnants of Boswell [Round 4 Day ends 21:00 GMT Sunday]
Asked for a modkill/replacement but I might as well contribute a tiny bit while we are waiting for that replacement.

[vote ARSENIC] for being a retribution player and therefore being in a late game faction. Game is reaching late game and I think it should be a priority to somewhat balance the game by taking down one of their players.

Code:
Emziek - 6 - MMage, Mendel, UnwaveringGrey, Lawliet, Numble, Mystic
Cruxell - 3 - Cap H, Emziek, Katika VS
ARSENIC - 2 - Cruxell, Patrick

No vote (self vote) - 5 - Maki, WaywardVole, Wertydoo, Arsenic, Cap_H


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