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#32 (ISO #1)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux)
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#45 (ISO #2)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux)
Because of the nature of peeks across this team, I suggest being wary of peek claims. On the same coin, because of the miller, I would ask that peekers be skeptical of their initial peeks. Communication will be more key here than pr abilities in the first few rounds. #aggressivevotingawayyyyyy

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#48 (ISO #3)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux)
Numble wrote:
Also, I made a mistake, i didn't notice that the doc cannot protect himself. So kinda be aware of that. Docs keep an eye out for who seems suspicious. Considering you can't really protect yourself, be aware of who you'll protect. I don't know the odds of your protection hitting the same as the medic's.

I claim numble,
thus,
[v0t3 numble]

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#60 (ISO #4)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux)
Ultor wrote:
Mendel wrote:
"spread your votes", which doesn't even apply this round, I think none of the advice is actually any good

We obviously won't be able to vote today, someone needs to be hospitalised; I was talking about the upcoming rounds. Spreading votes is actually good for 2 very important reasons:

1. Mafia tend to join big bandwagons and by following this approach, it prevents that from happening.
2. We will be able to determine (or have a smaller list of people) who has the meth addict modifier with 2 votes and this can be done by having people voting on 3 or 4 different targets with equal votes while also knowing which one is longest held vote, for example:

Ultor- 4 votes (this is the longest held vote)
Mendal- 4 votes
wertydoo- 4 votes

Mendal is lynched. The person with meth addict is one of the 4 people who voted mendal.

As you can see, this can be an effective way of finding the SK.


This is actually a well thought out approach to finding the SK Ultor. :clap:

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#61 (ISO #5)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux)
Emziek wrote:
wow what an exciting wait

When are you going to play Dark Souls with me bish.

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#63 (ISO #6)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux)
Emziek wrote:
wertydoo wrote:
Emziek wrote:
wow what an exciting wait

When are you going to play Dark Souls with me bish.

when I finally have time to kill nameless king and cinder


I'm on the nameless king right now!!! :D
On... my... third character.....

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#68 (ISO #7)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
Romeo wrote:
LETS START THIS GAME OFF THE RIGHT WAY....

I am a MAFIA AND VILLAGER, who am I?

[VOTE PATRICK]
Code:
Draichrog - 1 - Patrick
Patrick - 1 - Romeo
No vote - 13 - Styx, Blaze, Mystic, Cruxell, JTc, Numble, Katika AD, Draichrog, Lawliet, Thierry Henry#CR7, Wertydoo, Mendel
Incapacitated - 2 - Ultor, Emziek
[/quote]
Schrodingers mafia?

Ultor wrote:
So apparently I was hospitalized by the SK and Emziek by the mafia. I guess SK panicked or something because of my previous post lol

Anyway, remember that evils can hospitalize themselves so us 2 are no where near 'confirmed townies'. If I wasn't hospitalized, I'd vote on numble because of 2 things he said on discord/here: "I didn't know there was no GF" and "I didn't know doctor can't self-heal". Just looks suspicious to me atleast.

This is a good point. With that said, I'm going to draw attention to the fact that you seem to have a really large interest in the SK. It is possible that you actually did hospitalize yourself and you ARE the SK. An interesting twist ey?

[vote Draichrog] (not day)
After thinking it over a little more, I found a bit of a flaw in Ultor's SK finding strat. Two things actually. First, if the SK votes early, it would be really easy for them to hide in the LHLV tie and not be spotted. Second, there is likely more than one meth addict meaning that looking for the double vote among ties doesn't necessarily give you the SK. Sorry Ultor, twas a good attempt. ON TO TRADITIONAL ND FASHION BANDWAGONING!!!!

Code:
Draichrog - 2 - Patrick, Draichrog
Patrick - 1 - Romeo
No vote - 12 - Styx, Blaze, Mystic, Cruxell, JTc, Numble, Katika AD, Draichrog, Lawliet, Thierry Henry#CR7, Mendel
Incapacitated - 2 - Ultor, Emziek

[b]LHLV: [/b] Draichrog


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#79 (ISO #8)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
InCoMInG WaLl Of TexT!!!

Mendel wrote:

@Numble : What was the last mafia you played or hosted that did have a godfather?

@Wertydoo : vote code fail, you have Draichrog voting Draichrog


OOPS. My b. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Lawliet wrote:
Ultor wrote:
As far as the game goes, I have a suggestion for the sheriff. Personally, if I was the sheriff, I'd use my R0 peek as a proxy and have him/her claim on public. The proxy will essentially be a 'fake' sheriff that will gather info for the 'real' sheriff. The benefits of this are:

1. The real sheriff is kept safe.
2. Create a 'circle of trust' for townies.
3. If possible, receive the 2 doctor claims from village (medic can claim aswell though so keep that in mind). This can be extremely beneficial early game as it would avoid overdose kills.
4. We could have a counter-claim which would be super useful because it would reveal an obvious evil. However, I don't think evils would be stupid enough to counter-claim a sheriff.

I can't think of any drawbacks and even if there is any, the benefits defiantly outweigh the drawbacks.

Ultor NOT-being-Ultor here wtf?? I like this approach! you don't get my R1 vote this time, gj!
There's no chance the R0 negative peek result being inaccurate as there is no godfather role in this setup. what Ultor suggested should be done asap. Sheriff should claim to his R0 peek, R0 peek claim publicly and receive claims from docs. Last time we played a similar setup, the village lost because the PRs were too scared to communicate and ended up overdosing one of them, do not repeat the same mistake. For the R0 peek, keep the claims to yourself once you receive them, just to give a chance for any possible cop/other R0 peek counter-claim since the guy claiming to you could be the Don. If there wasn't any counter-claims near the end of the round then it's safe to assume the cop claim was genuine, only then you should share the claims you received with em.


This is a sound idea. Though, I wouldn't have put it out in the open on forum because now scum are going to suspect it.

Blaze wrote:
[Vote Mendel] obvious mafia or SK.



Lawliet wrote:
Code:
Mendel - 1 - Blaze
Draichrog - 3 - Patrick, wertydoo, Lawliet
Patrick - 1 - Romeo
No vote - 9 - Styx, Mystic, Cruxell, JTc, Numble, Katika AD, Draichrog, Thierry Henry#CR7, Mendel
Incapacitated - 2 - Ultor, Emziek

LHLV: Draichrog

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What the actual fuck? Why?

Finally,
I would like to remind everyone that if you are a town peek roll, and you have peeked a safe villager, to get in contact with them right away (PRIVATELY).


Draichrog, you are currently on the chopping block. Any valuable input you would like to give the rest of us?

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#81 (ISO #9)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
Blaze would like everyone to know:
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#82 (ISO #10)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
Romeo wrote:
Wait why are we band wagoning on Draichrog?


Typical R1 fish for info. No nefarious reason. This will likely remain the same unless a better lead presents itself.

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#85 (ISO #11)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
Mendel wrote:
wertydoo wrote:
Blaze would like everyone to know:
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It's going to be a boring year for Blaze apparently. :P


same

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#86 (ISO #12)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
Draichrog wrote:
wertydoo wrote:
Romeo wrote:
Wait why are we band wagoning on Draichrog?


Typical R1 fish for info. No nefarious reason. This will likely remain the same unless a better lead presents itself.

Maybe I got Don'ed and then the bandwagon started.


Are you suggesting Patrick is a mafia?

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#89 (ISO #13)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
Draichrog wrote:
wertydoo wrote:
Draichrog wrote:
wertydoo wrote:
Romeo wrote:
Wait why are we band wagoning on Draichrog?


Typical R1 fish for info. No nefarious reason. This will likely remain the same unless a better lead presents itself.

Maybe I got Don'ed and then the bandwagon started.


Are you suggesting Patrick is a mafia?

I'd sooner suspect Lawliet and/or you than Patrick. But nothing's clear yet of course, I'm not making bold accusations yet.


I only bring up Patrick as he was the first one to vote for you.

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#92 (ISO #14)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
Lawliet wrote:
wertydoo wrote:
This is a sound idea. Though, I wouldn't have put it out in the open on forum because now scum are going to suspect it.

Elaborate please. I don't see why it shouldn't be posted in public.


The whole point is to keep the pr safe. If the mafia suspect a proxy they'll simply continue to search for the real one. They won't waste their time on the proxy.

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#101 (ISO #15)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
Draichrog wrote:
Lawliet wrote:
Draichrog wrote:
wertydoo wrote:
Draichrog wrote:
wertydoo wrote:
Romeo wrote:
Wait why are we band wagoning on Draichrog?


Typical R1 fish for info. No nefarious reason. This will likely remain the same unless a better lead presents itself.

Maybe I got Don'ed and then the bandwagon started.


Are you suggesting Patrick is a mafia?

I'd sooner suspect Lawliet and/or you than Patrick. But nothing's clear yet of course, I'm not making bold accusations yet.

nobody is making any bold accusations just yet, you ignoring being voted is not helping, however. suspecting whoever votes you is kinda expected. but being afraid to make a move is a little suspicious. Voted you after you made a reply where 2 people were voting you at the time and you did not even consider their votes, guess 3 got you to talk. Now then, what are your thoughts about this game? what do you think of Ultor's suggestion?

Me appearing "suspicious" early is really just Nice & Naughty all over again even though all I've shown is the most basic human impulse to survive, guess I will need to act like retard again and accuse everyone I don't like again.

And I can't imagine a single reason to give a shit about the subjects you put those questions on about.

I will tell you just 1 more thing. I'm more important than you.

THEMS FIGHTEN WORDS. LAWLIET YOU GONNA TAKE THAT??? AAWWW SHITT.

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#103 (ISO #16)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
Draichrog wrote:
Meh lol, he can respond all he want, but I've seen this same accusey of his before from Nice n Naughty, all I can do is defend myself against him cuz I atm think he's the nice/villager again.

As with all R1 info votes, I 'll just say that I guess sorry that it's you? I have no "reason" outside of just looking for information as is with most R1 votes. Im sure that youll agree that voting for someone is better than voting for no one.

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#132 (ISO #17)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
Blaze wrote:
Mendel wrote:
[unvote Patrick]

yo so this guy votes patrick and unvotes him in 2 seconds and thats cool with y'all?

pat and mendel are decieving u


They literally just talked it out in discord. Everyone saw it. This is meaningless.

As a matter of fact, Mendel and Styx seem to be playing the safest right now.

Styx because see below.

Mendel because he hasn't made any single anti-village action or post as of yet. From talking to him, I get an observational playstyle atm. He is new here and is trying to get his bearings straight. This doesn't make him safe, but it doesn't make him mafia either.




Styx wrote:
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Way to get one proxy only:

Cop claims to r0 neg which is 100 % true according to my sources. Proxy then posts he's been approached by cop to say hes a proxy for the cop. If this claim is undisputed for x amount of time and before round end, medics should claim to this person and thus we don't kill the person by overdose!

If mafia try to make a play with the don peeking someone or possibly using their own mafia buddies, which would be stupid to bring light to, both proxies simply state their cop. These 2 cops (one fake and one real) would then have to approve that message. If both approve we lynch one of the cops and overdose the other! Why you may ask? BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE A DEPUTY TO TAKE THE PLACE OF THE COP! One for one at this point is pretty much worth it. Then we either will have a confirmed cop whom the proxy knows, a confirmed proxy or a brand new shiny cop with a dead ass Don.

Requirements for this to succeed: Activity from medics and the people playing the game.

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Love this idea. endorsed.

I would like to point out, that for everyone currently voting for Mendel, you are jumping on a train that is back up by emotional flaring. This is a PLAGUE on neondragon. It happens way too often. Blaze has given no substantial reasoning to accuse Mendel, but he has used a lot of all caps and spam. This vote is pointless and I'm honestly annoyed that you are all willing to kill the NEW guy in R1 just because Blaze of all people gets uppity. His actions are dangerous albeit anti-village. Because of this,
[vote motherfucking blaze]

Code:
Cruxell - 1 - Patrick
Mendel - 4 - Blaze, Mystic, JTc, Romeo
Draichrog - 1 - Lawliet
wertydoo - 1 - Draichrog
Thierry Henry#CR7 - 1- Cruxell
Katika AD - 1- Mendel
Blaze - 1 - Wertydoo
No vote - 5 - Styx, Numble, Katika AD, Thierry Henry#CR7
Incapacitated - 2 - Ultor, Emziek


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#153 (ISO #18)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
Mendel wrote:
The votes on me came without much reasoning, but it became a little clearer on the discord.
Quote:
[23:15] ?Styx MR GOLD FUCKING STAR: whats the actual proof on mendel again?
[23:16] Romeo: The fact that he tried to start a banwagon or tie up votes makes him suspicious enough for me..
[23:16] Blaze: he is overly active
[23:17] Blaze: he is psychologically affected by the situation of me voting and pressuering him so he always type and try to be active without no need
[23:17] Blaze: not because of the fun of the game
[23:17] Blaze: but because he is trying to prove his innocence
[23:17] Blaze: thats all i have

I have been active even before Blaze was "pressuring" me. In the mafia games on my home forum, I am usually the most active poster. That's just who I am. From my first day on my first mafia, being a vanilla townie meant I had nothing to lose, so I could really get into it and be aggressive. To me, getting into it, and finding scum any way you can is the fun part about playing mafia.

If you go by the reasoning "he's active, let's lynch him", you're teaching me that I should be less active if I play here. I'm used to the mafia shooting active players to harm town, I've seen town lynch inactives as a matter of policy, but I've never seen town lynching actives for being active. Taking active, pro-town players out of the game is a very strange way to improve the town position in the game.

Quote:
[23:18] Romeo: Does him changing his vote on you doesnt make you suspicious of him? @Patrick
23:19] Patrick: No, I just find his vote on me unnecessary and based off nothing at all
[23:19] Romeo: Well, alright.

On the first half D1, there's nothing substantial you can vote people for. Thus, you vote people randomly, just to get a reaction, and that's what I've been doing with Patrick. He reacted, pointing out (as others have) that my vote would be better employed to get an inactive into the game, so I voted Kazinka and PMed them that I did so. That's why I voted, and why I changed my vote, and I explained why I did that as I did that.

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[23:20] Blaze: Im just a peopleperson
[23:20] Blaze: thats why Im usually right about these things

This time, you're not right. It happens, and it happens especially with people you don't know that well. The better you know someone, the better you can read them.

Quote:
[23:21] ?Styx MR GOLD FUCKING STAR: prove to me that your r0/r1 peeks have a more than 75% chance of succeeding
[23:21] ?Styx MR GOLD FUCKING STAR: then you have an argument
[23:21] Blaze: bro
[23:21] Blaze: Its not about that
[23:22] Blaze: No matter if i get 7 out of 9 right
[23:22] Blaze: people are always going to question it
[23:22] ?Styx MR GOLD FUCKING STAR: no
[23:22] ?Styx MR GOLD FUCKING STAR: it really is
[23:22] ?Styx MR GOLD FUCKING STAR: if u have 0% accuracy
[23:22] ?Styx MR GOLD FUCKING STAR: u cant say u just know this
[23:22] Blaze: ok
[23:22] Blaze: so if i have right now
[23:22] Blaze: and im at 5 out of 7
[23:22] Blaze: that means im at 71 precenntage probability
[23:22] Blaze: that means next time
[23:22] Blaze: ull trust me
[23:22] Blaze: righjt_
[23:23] ?Styx MR GOLD FUCKING STAR: you didnt prove shit lol
[23:23] ?Styx MR GOLD FUCKING STAR: 5 outta 7 last games u called out mafia r1?
[23:23] Blaze: I cant prove im a peoples person
[23:23] Blaze: no 4 out of 6
[23:23] Blaze: yea yea
[23:23] Blaze: i cant prove it but i can prove it with maybe hater agreeing ive done theese statistic things for a long time
[23:24] Blaze: im to bored to check other games
[23:24] Blaze: oh nvm
[23:24] Blaze: lets just lose

I don't doubt Blaze remembers being right better than not being right, that's human nature. The more he thinks about it, the lower his ratio gets:7/9, 5/7, 4/6 = 78%, 71%, 67%; and notice that there's always those two he remembers being wrong about. The thing is, you remember being right in r1 well if your guess also got lynched in r1, and that means a bunch of other people were also convinced that that person was scum, probably for different, more rational reasons. But these reasons aren't forthcoming here,so it's not exactly the same type of situation. So if nobody backs you up, maybe your guess is just random. And sure, random voting is fine, I just said I do it myself, but you have to consider if voting here is actually the best use of your vote, or not. (Hint: it's not.)

And, please, if you do happen on some rational reasons to doubt me, I'd appreciate it if you posted them here; having to dig the accusation out of that discord channel is not a good procedure IMO, and I'm sure we both wish to avoid lynching a villager needlessly.

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I'm pretty sure I said this for you already but it doesn't hurt to reiterate.
With that said, an open letter to the people voting for Mendel:
"SHAME ON YOU, SHAME ON YOUR FAMILY, SHAME ON YOUR COW!"

Mystic wrote:
The cop has claimed to me. I am the r0 negative peek and thus confirmed villager. If the real cop did not claim to their r0 negative you do so and have that person counterclaim.

Interesting play.
Unfortunately, this public claim makes you only safe to that "cop". You aren't quite safe enough to be eligible as a proxy just yet. But I would like to see where this goes next round.

Romeo wrote:
Mystic wrote:
The cop has claimed to me. I am the r0 negative peek and thus confirmed villager. If the real cop did not claim to their r0 negative you do so and have that person counterclaim.

Oh? I was peeked r0 and I was told by the COP himself since he saw that I was a vilalger, may I know who peeked you?


This just earned you my vote. This is information you should have come out with as soon as mystic made his move. Now we have to suspect both of you and given your previous actions regarding votes on Mendel, you are the easier target to vote for.

Below is a pic of my summation of information in discord:
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Code:
Mendel - 3 - Blaze, Mystic, Romeo
Romeo - 4 - Styx, JTc, Katika VS, Wertydoo
Cruxell - 2 - Patrick, Numble
Draichrog - 1 - Lawliet
Katika AD - 1 - Mendel
Thierry Henry#CR7 - 1 - Cruxell
wertydoo - 1 - Draichrog

Expected LHLV - Romeo

No vote - 1 - Thierry Henry#CR7
Incapacitated - 2 - Emziek, Ultor


It would seem your prediction is on track Romeo!

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#198 (ISO #19)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
THE TALLY FROM SINCE MENDEL VOTED ON PAGE 11 IS INCORRECT. HE USED THE TALLY FROM BEFORE I CHANGED MY VOTE. @HATER PLEASE CORRECT THIS? VOTES ARE IN THE WRONG PLACE.

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#215 (ISO #20)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
Clears throat

Romeo wrote:
Also what the flip, Styx. How about we get to know who Mystic is covering up on? Whoever peeked Mystic needs to speak up or even Mystic himself...

Before we lynch one of the potential cops we need to know who the other one is....

If Draich dies because he was so called cop and Mystic doesnt tell us who he was peeked from then I am going full out against Mystic, brcause he would obviously be hiding a mafia member..


I agree with this sentiment. Mystic will have to be forward with his information if Draich dies and flips, otherwise Mystic becomes just as scummy.

Mystic wrote:
LISTEN UP FUCKBOIS!
this is how it's gonna go down.
Just before round end I will pick 2 players at random.
1 of the players I will give the name of the "cop" that claimed to me. To the other I will give the name of the first player who I gave the name to.
So lets say person C has claimed cop to me. Then I will tell person A that person C is the cop. I will tell person B that person A knows the name of the "cop".
This strategy works as long as atleast 1 of the 2 players I pick are village aligned.

Let's work it out step by step:

Person C is real cop
Person A is mafia
person B is village

Person A gives the name of the real cop to the mafia and they kill him. if the cop dies within 1 or 2 rounds > player B comes forward and says the name of person A.
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Person C is fake cop
Person A is mafia
person B is village

Real cop flips dead. Person A has to come forward with the name of the fake cop. If this player does not do that
or gives a fake name > Person B reveals the name of person A. (worst case scenario)
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Person C is real cop
person A is village
Person B is mafia

real cop is safe in this situation, person B will know that person A has the name of the real cop but it won't matter (best scenario)

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Person C is fake cop
person A is village
person B is mafia

Real cop flips dead, person A reveals the name of the fake cop.


This is the motherfucking triforce. This is a great plan and insures the information the village needs even if you die. I love it. Fucking do it.
Everyone should be on board with this.

Draichrog wrote:
Romeo wrote:
[Unvote]

[Vote Romeo]

Blaze wrote:
Fixed it werty:
Code:
Romeo - 4 - JTc, Katika VS, Wertydoo, Romeo
Cruxell - 3 - Patrick, Numble, Lawliet
Draichrog - 2 - Blaze, Styx
Mendel - 1 - Mystic
Ultor - 1 - Mendell
Emziek - 1 - Cruxell
Styx - 1 - Draichrog


Expected LHLV - Romeo

No vote - 1 - Thierry Henry#CR7,
Incapacitated - 2 - Emziek, Ultor


Anyone else wanna join?

I mean if he doesn't look like a confused and scared villager already, why put your threats on Romeo still?

Him flipping villager, which he 100% will, will not decide anything, infact, I will be 100% shot by mafia's then. If not, they will say that I may have manipulated the poor villager as Don, (unfortunately the fact that my peek on Romeo was a random one does seem to point that way, but I can't help because I really did forget to nominate my peek. I mean why would a R0 peek would be any intentional at all? You don't really know who is who. Myself I'm glad to work together with a village as much as I would with other village PR).

Even though my opinion on this round has change somewhat, I would like to point out that Romeo does not look like a scared villager with this tactic. the "FUCK ALL OF YOU JUST KILL ME IT'S YOUR LOSS" strat is a common copout used by mafia.

Draichrog wrote:
Also reasons for me to stay alive this round-
1. If I die this round, my peek is wasted, next cop will not know which one it was.
2. What makes you think Mystic will reveal the name of his peeker after I die?
3. Villagers get only 2 cops per THE WHOLE GAME. When first is gone early, it won't take long before 2nd one gets killed.
4. NOTHING WILL BE CLEAR ONCE I FALL. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE LYNCH GOING TO REVEAL? Ya'll start accusing Blaze or Styx even though both are probably just drunk villagers? The mafia's will eliminate us 2 by 2 when that happens. + the serial killed who just kills whoever he wants.
5. If you think I'm mafia because I'm so concerned about my survival, that's the same attitude I had in Nice n Naughty when being Papa Elf (toughness role), the village role, because I prefer surviving till the end of the game (or till the modkill which I had pathetically requested then) regardless of the side. I didn't plan to be like this again until it was me to get 3 votes in the first hours of R1 right out of the damn blue (coincidence much?). I mean when that happened, you think I was supposed to hide my identity? That bandwagon of 3 came from absolutely nowhere! Couldn't be someone of mafia or normal villager, OOOOHHH NOOOO, it just hapened to be a fuckin PR off the bat.


1) Weighed against the opportunity cost of revealing a fake cop, I would lose one peek for that.
2) See Mystic's triforce of justice
3) What basis do you have for this? We would learn from your mistakes (assuming you are the cop) and keep the other one well hidden.
4) What won't be clear? Nothing will be clear until there is one cop. While their are two, nothing is safe.
5) We don't think you're mafia, you'd be a fucking awful mafia if you are. We think you made a very poor choice in R1 claiming cop. It's a very high risk and in general it's a very anti-village thing to do.

Mystic wrote:
Lynching romeo at this point is useless. Even if the cop claim to romeo is fake, it makes no sense for 2 mafia members to expose themselves like that. If draichrog was mafia he would pick a villager and fake claim to that person to throw a wrench into the r0 neg strat. for now lay off of lynching romeo. I also think lynching draichrog is not beneficial to us this round yet.

After re-checking voting patterns a few times I am going to
[vote Lawliet]

My reasoning for this is as follows: he voted twice. First one Draichrog and then on cruxell. Both times it was without much reason and in a bandwagon-y fashon. Also note his tendency to follow patrick on voting (possible mafia duo?)


In conjunction with discord chat, this is a sound point and observation. Seeing how round 1 ends and round 2 plays out can be useful information regarding mystic and Draich, and Lawliet is currently using the conventional mafia tactic of hide in the bandwagon.

Romeo wrote:
[Unvote]

Code:
Romeo - 3 - JTc, Katika VS, Wertydoo
Cruxell - 3 - Patrick, Numble, Lawliet
Draichrog - 2 - Blaze, Styx
Lawliet - 1 - Mystic
Ultor - 1 - Mendell
Emziek - 1 - Cruxell
Styx - 1 - Draichrog


Expected LHLV - Romeo

No vote - 1 - Thierry Henry#CR7,
Incapacitated - 2 - Emziek, Ultor


Done for Wertydoo because he gave me a hug >////>


YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO LIVE FOR!!! <3 <3 <3

(Forgetting the fact that I threatened you multiple times today....)

[vote Lawliet]

Code:
Romeo - 2 - JTc, Katika VS
Cruxell - 3 - Patrick, Numble, Lawliet
Draichrog - 2 - Blaze, Styx
Lawliet - 2 - Mystic, Wertydoo
Ultor - 1 - Mendell
Emziek - 1 - Cruxell
Styx - 1 - Draichrog


Expected LHLV - Cruxell

No vote - 1 - Thierry Henry#CR7,
Incapacitated - 2 - Emziek, Ultor


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What in the fat fishes of a phenomenal Fahrvergnügen
fuck is going on?
Are you for fucking real? Are you a unicorn?
Fuck me silly if you nailed the mafia in R1 because we should have sent you to the ww championships. BUT WAIT, there is no point in voting for any of them???????? You know the mafia but won't vote for them? You are literally the scummiest villager I have ever seen!!!! I believe that you probably are a villager but I want to lynch you on fucking principle!!!
YOU MAKE MY BRAIN HEMORRHAGE!!!!

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#233 (ISO #21)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
Code:
Romeo - 2 - JTc, Katika VS
Lawliet - 3 - Mystic, Patrick, Romeo
Cruxell - 3 - Numble, Lawliet, Wertydoo
Draichrog - 1 - Styx
Ultor - 1 - Mendell
Emziek - 1 - Cruxell
Styx - 1 - Draichrog
Mendell - 1 - Blaze

Expected LHLV - Lawliet

No vote - 2 - Thierry Henry#CR7
Incapacitated - 2 - Emziek, Ultor


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#244 (ISO #22)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
Code:
Romeo - 3 - JTc, Katika VS, Styx
Lawliet - 1 - Mystic
Cruxell - 2 - Numble, Lawliet
Emziek - 1 - Cruxell
Draichrog - 1 - Mendel
Styx - 1 - Draichrog
Mendell - 1 - Blaze
Ultor - 2 - Patrick, Wertydoo

Expected LHLV - Romeo

No vote - 2 - Thierry Henry#CR7, Romeo
Incapacitated - 2 - Emziek, Ultor

Fuck you Ultor

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#247 (ISO #23)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
Code:
Romeo - 2 - JTc, Katika VS
Lawliet - 1 - Mystic
Cruxell - 2 - Numble, Lawliet
Emziek - 1 - Cruxell
Draichrog - 1 - Mendel
Styx - 1 - Draichrog
Mendell - 2 - Blaze, Romeo
Ultor - 3 - Patrick, Wertydoo. Styx

Expected LHLV - Ultor (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH)

No vote - 1 - Thierry Henry#CR7
Incapacitated - 2 - Emziek, Ultor

Corrected

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#250 (ISO #24)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R1 ends 8 PM EDT Saturday
Code:
Romeo - 3 - JTc, Katika VS, Mendel
Lawliet - 1 - Mystic
Cruxell - 2 - Numble, Lawliet
Emziek - 1 - Cruxell
Styx - 1 - Draichrog
Mendell - 2 - Blaze, Romeo
Ultor - 4 - Patrick, Wertydoo. Styx, Mystic

Expected LHLV - Ultor

No vote - 1 - Thierry Henry#CR7
Incapacitated - 2 - Emziek, Ultor


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#308 (ISO #25)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
HATER wrote:
Round 1 has ended.

Final vote tally:

Code:
Romeo - 2 - JTc, Mendel
Lawliet - 1 - Mystic
Cruxell - 2 - Numble, Lawliet
Emziek - 1 - Cruxell
Styx - 1 - Draichrog
Mendell - 2 - Blaze, Romeo
Ultor - 5 - Patrick, Wertydoo. Styx, Mystic, Katika VS

Expected LHLV - Ultor

No vote - 1 - Thierry Henry#CR7
Incapacitated - 2 - Emziek, Ultor


Ultor Lynched
Ultor died
Ultor was a Normal Villager with the Meth Addict modifier.

Draichrog Overdosed
Draichrog Died
Draichrog was a Village Cop.

Mystic Stabbed
Mystic Survived

Mystic Shot
Mystic Killed
Mystic was a Normal Villager

Round 2 has begun.

Round 2 will end Monday at 20:00 (8:00 PM) EDT // [00:00 (12 AM midnight) Tuesday GMT]


Ok. So, a couple of things:
First, I believe that this outcome falls within the expected parameters of our predictions. I wouldn't call this shocking in the least. There are however certain specific characteristics that I would like to point out that seem interesting. Firstly, Mystic got hit twice. This had to be a complete coincidence (though unfortunate) as there was no way for the SK and the mafia to be in contact during R1. Secondly, Draich's overdose from this initial post seems systematic. I believe that the mafia might have predicted a protection on Draich and deliberately went for the OD attack. These are my initial reactions of the round results.

MOVING ON:

Emziek wrote:
Blaze wrote:
numble - The SK. Why? Because he is always active and had barely said a word. How the fuckdoyou not notice this.

Pretty weird for a SK to go for Mystic rather than a claimed doctor wouldn't you say?
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There is one issue with your argument Emziek, which is that from your screenshot, it looks like Numble didn't believe you. If he were smart, and I think Numble is smart, it's possible that Numble simply called your bluff. So I would not rule him out as a possible SK from this alone.

Mendel wrote:
The Serial Killer
1. We lynched the meth addict, so the only person with an extra vote is the SK. This significantly improves our chances of finding them, if
a) we keep the wagons equal (® Ultor)
b) everyone votes, since votes on vanity wagons (= 1 voter) or non-voters add to the LHLV group
2. I'm either exceptionally dumb, love playing Russian Roulette, or cleared of being the SK, since my vote in #248 equalized the wagons 7 minutes to closing. (I'm mentioning this because of Ultor's dying words #258.)
3. The serial killer targetted Mystic, so they might be Mystic's person A, person B, or the fake cop. (@Numble #262)

@HATER, Lawliet voted Romeo in post #251; this is not reflected in your official tally. Why?
Also, any news on the Thierry Henry dropout?

Some obvious observations on the night kills (Correct me if I'm wrong, i'm new here)
* Mystic was not Tough, or HATER would have announced it
* Mystic was protected, because Mystic survived getting stabbed
* Mystic was protected by a town doctor, since Mystic was also shot by the mafia
* Therefore, Draichrog was overdosed by the mafia medic and a town doctor
* Draichrog publicly confirmed Romeo. Unless Draichrog was also pulling some kind of mindgame as well, Draichrog flipping cop confirms Romeo as town.
* The players up for lynch near the deadline were Romeo and Draichrog. Both were town.
* Wagons were always equalized (or close) until near the end. If the last vote is on a bigger wagon, the smaller wagon is the LHLV, so if it has the SK on it, they'd be under suspicion
* The final R1 vote tally was too unequal to conclude anything.
* Safest play for the SK is to park their vote elsewhere
* Surviving players not voting for either Romeo or Draichrog: Numble, Cruxell, Blaze, Romeo, (Thierry Henry)
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Emziek wrote:
Conclusion: Numble & Blaze aren't the cereal killer

Well, I have my own theory on why the SK would target Mystic, but together, this does raise the likelyhood that Cruxell is the SK.
[Vote: Cruxell]
Code:
Mendel - 1 - Blaze
Cruxell - 1- Mendel

Expected LHLV - Mendel

No vote - 11 - Cruxell, Emziek, JTc, Katika VS, Lawliet, Numble, Patrick, Romeo, Styx, Thierry Henry#CR7, Wertydoo


End of day votes on Romeo/Ultor
Code:
Post  Voter    Time  Votes on Romeo                       Votes on Ultor
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#243  Patrick   :45  3 - JTc, Katika VS, Styx             1 - Patrick
#244  wertydoo  :48  3 - JTc, Katika VS, Styx             2 - Patrick, Wertydoo
#245  Styx      :52  2 - JTc, Katika VS                   3 - Patrick, Wertydoo, Styx
#248  Mendel    :53  3 - JTc, Katika VS , Mendel          3 - Patrick, Wertydoo, Styx
#249  Mystic    :54  3 - JTc, Katika VS , Mendel          4 - Patrick, Wertydoo, Styx, Mystic
#251  Lawliet   :58  4 - JTc, Katika VS, Mendel, Lawliet  4 - Patrick, Wertydoo, Styx, Mystic
#252  Katika VS :59  3 - JTc, Mendel, Lawliet             5 - Patrick, Wertydoo, Styx, Mystic, Katika VS


I think that your analysis of the SK's actions are reasonable. But, with my above refuting of Emziek's screenshot, I don't know if this goes far enough to incriminate Cruxell yet.

Blaze wrote:
hey drama queen mafia mendel!

I got nothing to hide. But the person wanted to be anonymous. The "noname" guy was Styx.

I switched vote every second cause we have no lead on anyone and we just go by guessing. We literally lynched ultor because he was supsicious.


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Its 8 villagers and 5 on the opposing team. You all seem to be trusting everyone easily and not thinking the mafia could be right in front of you. Obviously Romeo is Villager

That means 7 x 5 situation. Im putting my money on mendel.


We didn't have any solid leads? Ridiculous. We discussed our possible votes and strategies to exhaustion yesterday. How can you say there were no leads. This is a very scummy post.

Patrick wrote:
Just starting from where we left yesterday before all the confusion in the end of the round. Step the fuck up Cruxell and share your thoughts with the rest of us.

You popped up randomly on discord last night after the round was over.

[vote Cruxell]

Code:
Mendel - 1 - Blaze
Cruxell - 2 - Patrick, Mendel
No vote - 10 - JTc, Numble, Lawliet, Cruxell, Romeo, Wertydoo. Styx, Katika VS, Thierry Henry#CR7, Emziek


@HATER, what is the status with Thierry's situation?


Edit: Just saw Mendel's vote. Updated the tally


Patrick makes a good point here. Your arrival was somewhat strange, Cruxell.

Cruxell wrote:
Patrick wrote:
Just starting from where we left yesterday before all the confusion in the end of the round. Step the fuck up Cruxell and share your thoughts with the rest of us.

You popped up randomly on discord last night after the round was over.

[vote Cruxell]

Code:
Mendel - 1 - Blaze
Cruxell - 2 - Patrick, Mendel
No vote - 10 - JTc, Numble, Lawliet, Cruxell, Romeo, Wertydoo. Styx, Katika VS, Thierry Henry#CR7, Emziek


@HATER, what is the status with Thierry's situation?


Edit: Just saw Mendel's vote. Updated the tally

When I saw this, my instincts told me that I could be the miller and you could've be a confidante of Hunie the cop, but then I remembered that he was eliminated before he could've peeked anybody, except for the R0 negative. Your first serious vote was on me, then as soon as you'd seen me on Discord you started putting pressure on me. And now again you're jumping on a bandwagon, accusing me of - what again? Being AFK? Mate, this is my ninth post. Niende.
You want somebody to share his thoughts with the players? How about you ask Thierry Henry or JTc with their ZERO and TWO game related posts, respectively.
Hence, the only possibilities left at the table are:
  • (1)You're mafia, I'm the miller and you have peeked me as the Serial Killer therefore you want to eliminate me out of the game. Through glibness and lying you are hoping to get the village to lynch me, and you will use the night kill on somebody else, perhaps a confirmed townie.
  • (2)You're throwing, feeding or trolling. Despite still having faith in humanity, seeing your overtly aggressive behavior towards me, it could be possible that for some reason you want specifically me out of the game. Good luck with that.
I'd say it's rather interesting that the mafia had chosen Patrick as the person who will advocate their wishes publicly to influence the target of the lynch. He is likely the Trainee, thus while the rest of the mafia is keeping low profile, Patrick is the one who will interfere with the village and corrupt the vote.
Lawliet has been Patrick's partner throughout the entire length of the game. Whenever one would vote, the other would help him. They would stick out for one another. They're providing each other support. Because of this, I'd say it's likely that Lawliet is the second most undesirable mafia role, the Medic, while Patrick has the arguably most useless role, the Trainee.
In other words guys, Patrick is a small fish, he does not have an important role and has little influence in the mafia domain. This is why they are instructing him to show aggressive, risky and compromising behavior. Lawliet is his follow-up, and will come in his aid. Just watch how Lawliet will write an op-ed about this.
So, we've deducted who the Medic and the Trainee are. The mafia clearly saw Medic as a more important role, and so do I, hence I will be voting on Lawliet first and Patrick second. If you guys deem that Trainee is a better role, you can vote Patrick, but I feel like this is the safest approach to take.
[vote Lawliet]


You seem to have more evidence against Patrick than you do against Lawliet. Why would you vote for Lawliet??? Your analysis of the situation utilizes mostly circumstantial evidence which isn't very helpful. But from a quantity stand point, you have much more against Patrick. I do not understand your vote.


Cruxell wrote:
It's important that we analyze the overdose mechanic and the playstyle of the Medic.
HATER wrote:
*This game, since there are 3 doctors total, invokes the Overdose mechanic: If a person is protected by more than one doctor in a single night, they will die.

As we all know, if a person is protected by more than 1 doctor or medic, they die. This left the mafia with two possible alternatives for how to utilize the Medic.
(1) He could've protected a fellow Mafia from the Serial Killer, but that would carry risks. What if a doctor protected the same guy and he died to overdose?, they thought.
(2) Protect a high-profile town member, a confirmed Power Role or somebody otherwise innocent, hoping that a village doctor will protect them too, but with a genuine hope to save them from death. It seems that he opted for this option.

We know the targets of the previous round of all healing roles of the game. Mystic, an asset to the town, was protected and as such he survived the SK stab. Funnily enough, he was also targeted and successfully night killed by the mafia. The mafia Medic would've never protected somebody who they were gonna attack, therefore what is clear is that one of the two Doctors protected Mystic.
Hunie died due to overdose meaning that two healing roles targeted him. As a Doctor saved Mystic, we're left with one Doctor and one Medic. So the Medic protected Hunie hoping to overdose him, which he succeeded in doing. The town Doctor healed Mystic as he genuinely tried to save him from a potential NK.

Protections of R1/R2:
Mystic - Doctor
HuniePop -Medic, Doctor

This reveals valuable information of the Mafia strategy - they will be targeting high-profile townies with the Medic, expecting that these townies will be protected and thus overdosed.
Doctors, do not protect distinguished townies. Protect insignificant ones to avoid OD.

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Mendel wrote:
Cruxell wrote:
Mendel wrote:
Emziek wrote:
Conclusion: Numble & Blaze aren't the cereal killer

Well, I have my own theory on why the SK would target Mystic, but together, this does raise the likelyhood that Cruxell is the SK.

What? How on earth does the innocence of Numble and Blaze make me the Serial Killer?
Just trying to comprehend the meaning of these poetic words.

it helps actually reading my post

Quote:
* Safest play for the SK is to park their vote elsewhere
* Surviving players not voting for either Romeo or Draichrog: Numble, Cruxell, Blaze, Romeo, (Thierry Henry)

* Romeo is innocent
* SK struck last night but Thierry resigned
* Numble and Blaze are probably not the SK (says Emziek)
* you are the only one left on the list
* you are most likely to be it
(it is not a guarantee, but if you wait for guarantees in mafia, you never lynch anyone)


What? Your logic is flawed. Why would the SK necessarily be among those who didn't vote for either Romeo or Draichrog? The SK could've voted for pretty much anyone, especially because he's got an extra vote.

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Guys, it's important to realize that we're in a bad situation now.

We're playing this 8v5, so in the worst case scenario that we lynch a townie which we most likely will do if we're not cautious, it will be a 5v5 next round. As soon as the SK dies, we will lose over parity.

I dare not call this a LiLo situation yet, but we must immediately begin to work on finding who the mafia are.

If we are too late, we will lose the game.

Luckily, we've found out that Patrick and Lawliet are mafia, so we should eliminate them as fast as possible.


Holy crap. There are a bunch of problems with this. The most problematic is your factual tone over the alignment of both Patrick and Lawliet. Again, your evidence is all circumstantial and probabilistic. You have no way to make any confirmations yet. This comes off as desperate and makes you look scummy. Also, openly asking doctors to not protect high profile villagers is really bad. I appreciate where your heart is in this idea, but you forget that the mafia also have a nightkill. It's a precarious situation yes, but this is not something to discuss out in the open.

Cruxell wrote:
>Speechless for 21 minutes
>As soon as we start accusing Lawliet he starts talking again, comes in Lawliet's defense
https://imgur.com/a/LN2kgUY
@Mafia, you must stop sacrificing only Patrick. Find somebody else to influence the vote.
Patrick wrote:
Blaze wrote:
Cruxell wrote:
Updated Tally:
Code:
Cruxell - 2 - Patrick, Mendel
Lawliet - 2 - Cruxell, Blaze
No vote - 10 - JTc, Numble, Lawliet, Romeo, Wertydoo. Styx, Katika VS, Thierry Henry#CR7, Emziek

Really, Im against both mendel and patrick. So im going to team up with crux cause i believe he is a villager more than they are
Blaze wrote:
Cruxell - mafia number 2. Why? Because of playstyle. Come on guys check it for fuck sake

Thinks Cruxell is mafia - decides to vote with him because he is against Mendel and me --> Votes Lawliet

Here we have it again. As soon as Lawliet was accused he's white knighting him. Clearly a pair of mafias.


Kontra pleeeeeassseeee. This is such a weak post. Patrick is clearly pointing out the absurdness of Blaze's actions vs his words. There is nothing weird about this. Hardly White Knighting. Once again, it makes you look more like scum than Patrick. You're trying too hard to sell an argument that doesn't hold a strong foundation.

Blaze wrote:
HATER wrote:
Small note:

-If Theirry Henry's role slot contains a role with targeted powers, that role's targets would have been randomed last night.

-The Deputy begins peeking the round after the cop dies. So this round, they would get to start peeking.


Thierry doc?? Thats why it was funny. Rnadom.org accidently landed on draich and overdosed draich.

wow


The odds of this are astronomical. But, it's not impossible. I will laugh my ass off if this is actually what happened.


Mendel wrote:
meta-post

I already told you I met Hater on the spectator chat for the Mafia Universe championship. I don't usually use discord, but I used it for that. He invited me to this mafia, which I thought would be a medium-activity forum mafia, with 200-400 posts per game. I can handle 200 forum posts per day. I do like the crew, you have some excellent and friendly players (and quite mayn are both), and some not so much, but that's the way it is everywhere. It's been an interestign and engaging experience for me, as you probably can deduce from my level of engagement.

What I can't handle is a lively discord chat being read alongside the forum game. Yesterday's end-of-game revotes are not understandable without also seeing the discord, and putting it together. But we have no discord logs, and if we had, this would ideed be a high-activity mafia, like the faster ones on the championship.
My old computer can't handle the discord web client, not sure if I can even install the desktop client, and the tablet I've been using the past two days in addition has other drawbacks.

I do my best to use my time to start the day with a long analysis post, and yet I come across on the discord as "silent" and leave questions unanswered that I'm not even tagged on. And the question is "state of the game"; clearly my long analysis post is insufficient as I should have progressed past my "random read list" stage by now. But with Ultor dead, I kinda don't have a mafia team left, and even if I did, it would probably based on seeing who is acting together, and since in this game, everyone has private chat, you can't really find mafia that way. You are going to find mafia by seeing people react in discord, by knowing how they would interact as a team, by pressing them; it occurs to me that this is why some people are asking me who I chat with. (I think Ultor put me down as SK because he recognized that ultimately i don't have a team.) In R0 and R1, I put some supicions up publicly, I get very little feedback, so that is obviously not what works here.

People who told me priority would be finding Sk over finding mafia now tell me it is scummy to suggest a SK lynch when that is all i can suggest.
I am missing a lot of what goes on in the game evn though I read the discord as much as possible, and I am missing a lot more of my spare time than I had budgeted as a result. I really did not plan on having to almost stop spectating the championships when I signed up. (Happily the mafia game I'm hosting is not that intense.)

I'm not resigning. But I do have to find a way of not getting overwhelmed by playing mafia in a new community, on a forum/discord style setting. My usual approach of showing myself through strong forum activity is clearly not sufficient (and I cant transfer it to discord), and I don't know what to do.
I want to keep playing, but I'm going to need to change something. And I don't know how.
Just thought I'd put that out there.


I really appreciate you bringing this to attention.

HATER

Can we do something to make life easier for Mendel regarding this? I have to admit that sometimes when I come home from being afk, I cannot be bothered to read multitudes of discord messages scattered all over the timestamps.

Dangan wrote:
Replacing Henry in the game. Hi.


DANGAN!!!! I miss you honey. Welcome back!

Lawliet wrote:
@Crux, I explained my votes well enough both here and on discord, if you have anything against my reasoning then feel free to say it, stop repeating what has been said and refuted already. You contradict yourself in your own posts, in your (ISO#3) you said "Changing my vote since Thierry seems to have quit the game." and then in (ISO#9) you questioned why Patrick isn't voting Henry and JTc for inactivity, although you knew Henry has left the game. Again, in (ISO#3) you emphasized the importance of choosing viable candidates for the lynch and that the Mafia controls a quarter of the lynch and then contributed absolutely nothing in determining the lynch. Now you come out with w/e shit goes in your head and post it thinking it makes you look innocent when you're the one pointing fingers.


This.

My apologies for the length of this forum post. Had only now to write it and a lot of posts to cover. Given all of the information now laid out, Cruxell is currently the scummiest player this round.

I'm beginning to think there was betrayal within Mystic's plan as his informants have not come forward. This is really disheartening because I put a lot of faith into his plan. If you guys are out there and aren't Mafia scum, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

With that said,
[vote Cruxell]
Code:
Cruxell - 3 - Patrick, Mendel, Wertydoo
Lawliet - 2 - Cruxell, Blaze

Expected LHLV: Cruxell

No vote - 9 - JTc, Numble, Lawliet, Romeo Styx, Katika VS, Thierry Henry#CR7, Emziek


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#316 (ISO #26)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
Mendel wrote:
Styx log with Mystic https://pastebin.com/x5snu3fV
wertydoo log with Mystic https://pastebin.com/iVd38dFa
Your words on the discord that introduced it were "I'll put it out in public for everyone"
And the you also said you were going to make a big post with all the info
Which you did
But not included that

Booting up pc, part 2 in a few minutes

my b for not adding log on forum. Thx for adding it.

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#339 (ISO #27)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
Mendel wrote:
@Emziek you told Blaze that it is a fake claim, so I don't see how this clears Blaze in any way, like you claimed? You lied to us.

also apologies for not wanting to leave the game on the first day, I've since reconsidered that though

Meaning you do want to leave?

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#354 (ISO #28)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
Patrick wrote:
Mendel wrote:
Image

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It's true, you know.
The guy we trust doesn't know how this game works.

He also tried to correct what he said afterwards but it was overshadowed by the fact that people are calling him stupid instead of trying to look up if there is anything they've missed behind his vote.
This post above is just straight up distasteful and unnecessary when we know Romeo is a confirmed townie and it's safe to assume that he didn't make this decision all by himself.

Lawliet wrote:
Patrick wrote:
Mendel wrote:
I'ma pull a Patrick and defend Lawliet butt in here:
Patrick wrote:
Lawliet also seemed eager to pressure Draich in the beginning of R1. The vote was after all a “random vote” to get the game going and even if I don’t agree with the strategy Draich pulled it doesn’t change that Lawliet went in too hard and eventually got a PR-claim.

This is a null argument. It only flies if Lawliet knew that Draich had a power role, but due to the way R0 peeks work, nobody could know that except for Draich himself, and Romeo, and whomever else besides Ultor Romeo told about it, and... ok I'll shut up now.

Whether or not Draich had a powerrole, Lawliet tried to gather information early in the game by doing that. As you said, there is no way that he could have known about Draich's PR - so it was probably a longshot from him, but he succeeded.

Yeah it was me who pressured him, but lord knows I wouldn't think or even dream of getting a PR claim out of pressuring someone R1 rofls. Are you actually questioning why I was pressuring him to talk? like.. wth did you want me to do with him?

It's a no big risk situation for you to do what you did. This is obviously not my main argument, but I figured that it still makes sense to mention as you were a big part of Draich claiming in public. Obviously Draich didn't play the situation wisely, but I still find the amount of pressure on him from your side unnecessary.


Patrick. Mafia is a game of information. The KEY component is information. It is the foundation for all gameplay. Lawliet made the best point of all which was the fact that he cannot defend himself because he doesn't know what he is confused of. This IS NOT WITCHHUNT. For Romeo to withhold all his information (After trying to defend this action with a complete misunderstanding of game mechanics) is ridiculous.
I
Don't
Care
if he is a confirmed villager. This isn't right and it leaves a bad taste. I'm a very idealistic girl and I refuse to change my vote in a witch hunt fashion.
Let me be clear:
I believe that Romeo is a confirmed villager. I also believe that he is undergoing a power trip that is dismantling the core mechanics of the game. It's not fun.
Blind trust is stupid and you said that yourself. But right now you are asking us to blindly trust Romeo. Information is the only thing that matters in this game.
I refuse to move without information.
When you show me that Lawliet is the proper lynch, I will help you lynch him.

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#355 (ISO #29)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
Although, asking for no lynch is also pretty fucking scummy Lawliet.
So I'm not completely against switching to you. I just want this Romeo farse to end.

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#357 (ISO #30)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
Mendel wrote:
Patrick wrote:
This post above is just straight up distasteful and unnecessary when we know Romeo is a confirmed townie and it's safe to assume that he didn't make this decision all by himself.

Then tell me a sensible reason why the 5 targets need to be kept secret. There is no way to protect against town's methods of killing. This can't have been suggested by anyone who knows how this works.

The thing is, Lawliet challenged Romeo, saying that there were really 3 doc claims, and hence no safe group of 4 confirmed villagers. If you let that get out, then "not all by himself" means one other person that is actually trustworthy, and else whoever Romeo decides to trust for whatever reason. It means that the odds of killing scum with pot shots just got much, much worse.

If Lawliet is right, it means that Romeo is manipulating us with mind games again into going along with his vote, and when we see the first villagers flip on our kills, we're going down with him.
If Romeo is right, just post the 5 targets already.

Romeo, if you post the 5 targets, I will personally vote for each one of them.


I second this notion.

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#360 (ISO #31)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
Mendel wrote:
Romeo wrote:
Mendel wrote:
If Romeo is right, just post the 5 targets already.

Romeo, if you post the 5 targets, I will personally vote for each one of them.

When the round is near end.

Can't quit the mind games, can you?
I am not planning to be here at 2 am again.


Same. I won't be at my computer around 8. The whole point of 48 hour rounds is that people can get their actions and plays in when they're available. We don't work to your fucking schedule. I'm not gonna be here for round end.

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#364 (ISO #32)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
Cruxell wrote:
Although Werty's accusation of me initially made him look innocent in my eyes, I can't trust him after the last post. First he says that he trusts Romeo, and then he says that Romeo isn't playing like a village member should. This is frankly beyond my comprehension, I think that what he's trying to do is simply create discord so that we would forget about our objectives and lose faith in Romeo. Sadly, now Mendel is following Werty too.

Guys, you need to understand this: Romeo is 100% trustworthy. He knows what he's doing. If he needs help, he'll ask for help. The reason why he is not disclosing information is because it could compromise him or others. Just claim to him, and let him process the game data. Don't try to do his job.

Frankly, the next person who goes against Romeo should just be lynched right after Lawliet.


You're fucking kidding me right Kontra?
I'm not even gonna bother with this. Just reread my post and you a modicum of critical thinking. "Trust Romeo." Is it a baffling idea to not trust a confirmed villager when they clearly show their inexperience and lack of judgement? Let me spell it the fuck out.
THERE IS NEVER A REASON TO HIDE THE NAMES OF CONFIRMED MAFIA MEMBERS. DOING SO IS ALWAYS 100% SCUMMY PLAY.

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#365 (ISO #33)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.

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#367 (ISO #34)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
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Wertydoo is totally right. Everyone would rather trust a person who is a potential mafia that we know nothign about rather than a trust confirmed villager. I think thats the common sense Law was talking about earlier.

You right

You right.


And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.And furthermore,
I don't appreciate having my words pulled out of context and having the claim made against me that I'm trying to "lynch Romeo" or "discredit Romeo". My points have been clear and concise. Twisting words the pinnacle of mafia behavior.
I almost feel like I've been the most genuine player in this game. I dare someone to cite examples of when my actions haven't been in the interest of village actions or have showed a tendency to flip flop. I. Will. Fucking. Wait.

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#378 (ISO #35)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
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Katika VS wrote:
Cruxell wrote:
Katika VS wrote:
Cruxell, if I may ask: What spurs the sudden boom in your activity? You were basically MIA for round one, but now you're ~shudders~ basically trying to replace Ultor. What gives?
Reporting for duty, commander!
I was very much active during round one, in fact I had six posts which is twice more then you did. So, if I may ask you, what's causing you to be inactive?

Alright, I can do pedantry. If we're talking raw numbers and excluding vote text, you posted 417 words during round one, and I posted 286, for a ratio of roughly 3/2. Fair criticism. Now, let's talk numbers for the as-yet unfinished round two. So far, you have posted 1,668 words! That represents a four-fold increase over your activity last round, and this round isn't even finished! That is what my post was getting at. Now that the pedantry is out of the way... how come your activity has increased so dramatically?

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Romeo wrote:
[Vote Lawliet]

1. The fact that when I messaged him, he just told me his claim without even me asking him formally, which I expected but if you were gonna claim before I messaged then you didnt need me to pm you first. I know this is weak.

2. The fact that Lawliet convinced Patrick and since we have Patrick as a trusted and listened to in the community. Law succeeded at convincing Pat which turned out in making the villagers lynching a villager.

This is my theory but welcome to not believe it. Law has been very quite most of the time and then he is accused he gets defensive as hell and then he reaches out for trust members and convinces them to help him. Talking to Patrick made think that he got manipulated by the thoughts of Law when they chatted.

I know for a fact he is a 100% mafia, that is from the research, investigation and the evidence that I have gathered. This isnt just a conclusion but a proven fact that he is a mafia.

Do you care to share this evidence with the rest of the class? I mean, surely your entire argument doesn't boil down to that pathetic excuse for a reason that I have quoted above. Also, I'd be very curious to know exactly what evidence could prove that /anyone/ is a mafioso at this stage of the game. I mean, it's round two! Our Cop died last night, and I really can't imagine what else could /prove/ a living player guilty at this stage. Now, if we're talking "Pretty damn suspicious but still not /proof/", then we've got four or five options:

  1. The Mafia Don contacted you with a peek on the Serial Killer.
    Counterpoint: This is Mafia. People lie.
  2. The Serial Killer contacted you with a peek on a Mafioso.
    Counterpoint: This is Mafia. People lie.
  3. A Mafioso is betraying their team and contacted you with a list of fellow Mafiosos.
    Counterpoint: This is Mafia. People lie.
  4. BONUS ROUND: Any of the above, but with a host screenshot.
    Counterpoint: Not only can screenshots of host PMs be faked, but they are strictly against the rules.
  5. Someone claiming to be a third informant for Mystic contacted you with the names of the two people who haven't come forward.
    Counterpoint: This is Mafia. People lie.

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Patrick wrote:
I’d also like to point out that it’s very possible that Romeo has a strong lead on Lawliet due to all the claims he has gotten. These claims also creates a safegroup for him and I’m sure they have been guiding him as well as Romeo giving his own input to all this. Romeo is after all our best town lead at the current moment and should be sitting on all the information we have right now.
Romeo also has no reason to share all his information yet as it would benefit the mafia and help them predict what’s going to happen this long before round end.

This is absolutely 100% false, and not the way mafia should be played. Mafia, at its core, is a game about hidden information. The uninformed majority attempting to weed out an informed minority. The village thrives by gaining information, while the mafia thrives by suppressing it. Now, I'm not saying that Romeo should dump absolutely everything he has gathered. What I am saying is that, when a determination is made from this information that someone needs to be lynched, Romeo needs to explain exactly why this is the correct course of action.

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Now, after reading all that, I can guarantee that every single one of you is thinking to yourselves that what I am doing here is jumping to Lawliet's defense. it's not. What is actually going on here is that I am really fucking pissed off right now because 50% of this game is happening behind closed doors and the 50% that happens in-thread contains really shitty logic (Except for you, Werty <3)

Now that I'm done yelling at people, I have something to share! What a shock! Apologies that I didn't share this yesterday, but I wanted to give Lawliet ample time to come forward.

Image

I am Mystic's second informant. Lawliet is Mystic's first informant. As Lawliet still hasn't come forward with the name of Mystic's fake cop, I can only assume they are a mafioso, and should be summarily lynched.

Does it matter at this point? No, not really. But, for the record, I wanted there to be a reason. The village shouldn't make its moves in the dark. That's the mafia's game.

[Vote Lawliet]

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Vote Tally[spoiler]Lawliet - 7 - Cruxell, Romeo, Patrick, Styx, Dangan, JTc, Katika VS
Cruxell - 4 - Wertydoo, Numble, Mendel, Lawliet
Mendel - 1 - Blaze

Expected LHLV: Lawliet

No vote - 2 - Emziek

Player Status
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1. Styx
2. Blaze
4. Cruxell
5. JTc
6. Numble
7. Romeo
8. Katika VS
10. Lawliet
11. Thierry Henry#CR7
12. Patrick
13. Emziek - N0 (Hospitalized)
15. Wertydoo
16. Mendel

^--living--^
v--dead--v

3. Mystic - N1 (Stabbed, Healed, Shot)
Villager (Vanilla)

9. Draichrog - N1 (Overdosed)
Village Cop

14. Ultor - N0 (Hospitalized) - D1 (Lynched)
Villager (Meth Addict)

[/spoiler]

Well, this changes everything.
I'm sure I don't have to explain this change of vote given the above quote...
Bye Lawliet :X

[vote Lawliet]
Code:
Lawliet - 8 - Cruxell, Romeo, Patrick, Styx, Dangan, JTc, Katika VS, Wertydoo
Cruxell - 3 - Numble, Mendel, Lawliet
Mendel - 1 - Blaze

Expected LHLV: Lawliet

No vote - 1 -  Emziek


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#381 (ISO #36)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
Blaze wrote:
[vote lawliet]

Code:
Cruxell - 4 - Wertydoo, Numble, Mendel, Lawliet
Lawliet - 7 - Cruxell, Romeo, Patrick, Styx, Dangan, JTc, Blaze


Expected LHLV: Lawliet
No vote - 2 -  Katika VS, Emziek

I would keep it on mendel but my vote is important and I trust Romeo more than anyone. Does Romeo want to kill lawliet then we do it.

Please fix the tally blaze. You obviously did not take my last tally update....

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#382 (ISO #37)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
also incoming temperament apology post :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

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#386 (ISO #38)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
Katika VS wrote:
wertydoo wrote:
also incoming temperament apology post :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Honestly, I think your temperament was 100% justified. I never told Romeo that because I don't trust him. Sure, he's basically a confirmed villager, but he keeps everything behind his back. Plus, I wanted to give Lawliet as much time as possible.

I appreciate that at least someone understands my point of view.
Thank you <3

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#387 (ISO #39)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
I would also like to iterate that Kat's coming forward puts her in a very good light. This is a highly pro-village play.

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#389 (ISO #40)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
Lawliet wrote:
well.. this escalated quickly, I call BS, I have not been contacted by no Mystic, that is all I can say in my defense..

I call a photoshop expert as my next witness. Yes, can you please confirm the validity of Katita's screenshot of her conversation with Mystic?
Ty ty.

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#404 (ISO #41)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
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At this point, Katika is a confirmed townie, at least in my eyes. Smart of you to patiently wait, Katika. A very bad play from the mafia team, this shows a deep lack of communication.

It is crucial that we continue supporting Romeo. Guys, he may have reasons why he doesn't wish to disclose the information which he has.

I really don't know what to think about Patrick. Before, I wanted to start a bandwagon on him as soon as Lawliet flips Medic, but now I feel like he has become more trustworthy. When the voting situation was 3 on me (including Patrick) and 3 on Lawliet, with me being the expected LHLV, Patrick changed his vote. This made it 4 for Lawliet and 2 for me, as shown in the spoiler below. He could've decided that he needs to look more innocent by voting Lawliet, but I highly doubt he would've risked that in such a delicate moment. The only plausible explanation in which he is mafia is that he knew that the second informant would come forward, and Lawliet was unwilling to disclose Mystic's person C. To be honest, right now I'd say that voting for Patrick would be a bad idea. He should not be our top priority target.
Spoiler: show
Code:
Cruxell - 2 - Wertydoo, Numble
Lawliet - 4 - Cruxell, Romeo, Mendel, Patrick
Mendel - 1 - Blaze

Expected LHLV: Lawliet
No vote - 7 - JTc, Numble, Lawliet, Styx, Katika VS, Dangan, Emziek


Werty has a pretty weird style of playing to be honest. We must either trust that Romeo is village, or not trust him at all. We can't trust him and suggest that we don't listen to him. And if we don't trust him, we must lynch him. It's as simple as that. I have my magic stick out but am not picking up any penis vibes. He was the eight person to vote for Lawliet, but we've still got 13 players alive, and some are even voting for other people or are active and haven't voted Lawliet. I don't know. We'll have to keep a close eye on Werty.

Now, we must be aiming for those who are still inactive. Kudos to you for joining the game by replacing Thierry, Dangan, but you gotta step up. Note that Dangan was the fifth to vote on Lawliet.

I guess that Romeo and the results of the following round change will bring valuable information to us. The current round is pretty straightforward. Good luck, village.


If Lawliet flips Mafia, I believe that Cruxell should be the next lynch. Patrick and I have both laid out strong arguments toward the scummy behavior of this dude and in those instances Cruxell has poorly attempted to turn our words into suspicion toward us. Keep an eye on me? I've been among the most pro-village players in this game. Your desperate attempts to turn the village against us for playing pro-village only adds to your scummyness.
I refer people back to my first wall of text in this round to find all the evidence they need. I wouldn't be surprised if both Cruxell and Lawliet were partners.

Moving on. I decided that I'm not going to apologize. I stand by my attitude toward Romeo. We tried to explain ourselves to him repeatedly and were met with accusations and further trolling. Mafia is a game of information. To keep information to yourself is inherently scummy. You being our confirmed villager put the fate of the village in dangerous hands. I cannot tell you how easy it would have been for me to convince people to move back to Cruxell with the little amount of information you chose to provide. And since you freely admit that you are somewhat more inexperienced than others, it BAFFLES me that you chose to ignore both Patrick, Mendel, and I; people who have been playing mafia for YEARS. The only reason we are in a strong position now is Katika and I for one give all credit to her. I think you can be a cool person to play with in the future if you learn from this experience but I have to say, your attitude this round has been egotistical, immature, and completely anti-village.

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#407 (ISO #42)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
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Hopefully you're less mad now. Also the docs have been informed who to protect.

The deputy has been informed who to peek.

I am dead for sure. I oove you all, I just want the villagers to know that I tried my best, whether or not you believe it.

All my info are left with trusted villagers.

Last wish if I die is that the trusted villagers use the screenshots that I shared with them that will lead them to the next hit on the mafias.

Good luck to all players!

Well I feel like a piece of shit.

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#413 (ISO #43)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
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So no more overdosing. But we got 2 mafia which is great which means its a
9v3 situation
2 mafias 1 sk and 2 other mafias. I think SK is a higher priority than mafia rn

Any ideas?

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#416 (ISO #44)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
HATER wrote:
Round 2 has ended.

Lawliet Lynched
Lawliet Died
Lawliet was a Mafia Trainee.

Katika VS Overdosed
Katika VS Died
Katika VS was a Mafia Hit(wo)man.

Cruxell Stabbed
Cruxell Died
Cruxell was a Village Doctor.

Patrick Shot
Patrick Died
Patrick was a Normal Villager

Round 3 has begun.
Round 3 will end at 20:00 (8 PM) EDT Wednesaday.



Well shit. Mystic's triforce worked. Who knew he'd fuck up bad enough to pick two mafia for his randoms though right? lol
Now, let's look at the situation.
The mafia have one less shot now and their remaining roles cannot reincarnate. We definitely want to take away their power to OD. Finding the medic is going to be an important task.
Further, the SK stabbed Cruxell. Now, Cruxell was originally up for lynch until the fuckery with Romeo and Kat started.
The question becomes why would the SK pick someone who would likely have been lynched. I say likely only because I have to point out, even after he has flipped as doctor, that this boiiiiiiiii played scummy as fuck on the thread. I dare anyone to tell me otherwise. Come on now. Seems to be an interesting theme this game: The scummiest people on the thread have all been village PRs. Looks like we should lynch the not so scummy ey? [vote styx]. <- jk.
My initial thought is that the SK might have peeked Cruxell. This seems the most likely as I can't think of any other reason to target him. If he were really mafia, at least at this point in the game, the SK might be trying to make contact.

Then there is Patrick. Oh, poor Patrick. q.q We knew you well you old dog. Rest in pieces <3.

Moving on.
I'm going to start this round with
[vote Emziek]
I know you better than most and I hate it when you lurk. Besides Romeo, you might as well be one of the most dangerous players in this game. So, I'm dragging you out in the open. Romeo won't give us another lead atm so I'll continue to do what I do best and read the game. Your recent posts have summarized game analysis much in the same way that I do, but I have yet to see you add substantial influence to the village.
knock knock honey.
Code:
Emziek - 1 - Wertydoo
No Vote - 8 - Romeo, Styx, Dangan, JTc, Mendel, Emziek, Numble, Blaze
Expected LHLV: Emziek


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#417 (ISO #45)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
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Round 3 and a Living Emziek have an infamous past and I'm fucking scared.

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#426 (ISO #46)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R2 ends 8 PM EDT Tuesday
Mendel wrote:
wertydoo wrote:
My initial thought is that the SK might have peeked Cruxell. This seems the most likely as I can't think of any other reason to target him. If he were really mafia, at least at this point in the game, the SK might be trying to make contact.

Your theory requires that Cruxell looked like mafia in R1. But as Katika pointed out (not the best source I know), Cruxell's activity explosion only happened R2.

So let's look at the Cruxell wagon. #329 is when Romeo starts pushing Lawliet, so this is when the Cruxell wagon becomes openly unviable (it was always unviable, but we didn't know that).
Romeo wrote:
Code:
Cruxell - 4 - Patrick, Mendel, Wertydoo, Numble
Lawliet - 2 - Cruxell, Romeo
Mendel - 1 - Blaze
Expected LHLV: Cruxell

No vote - 7 - JTc, Numble, Lawliet, Styx, Katika VS, Dangan, Emziek

Katika and Lawliet are not actually on that wagon, so it is possible they did know it was not viable.



Actually they're dead, so my scumteam guess is wrong anyway, it can only be Emz and Numble or Emz and Blaze. Hmm.

Would they have tried to get Cruxell lynched as doc? if they knew he was doc, then why, also that was Patrick and myself, so that didn't happen. When did we learn about the third informant? At that point, when werty revealed that, mafia/SK team would have known that the push would never see a repeat of R1 draichrog debacle. From that point on it gets very WIFOM-y. Sigh.


I would like to pool more information on the possibility of an Emziek Numble partnership.
However, I have an issue with your suggestion that the Mafia/Sk could coordinate in R1. From earlier, we pointed out that it's damn near impossible for them to have been communicating.

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#461 (ISO #47)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R3 ends 8 PM EDT Wednesday
Mendel wrote:
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Just when you think it is
Image
it is actually
Image


Styx wrote:
Oh yeah, I claimed deputy is discord so I also claim deputy here FYI BTW

And you do this because the Mafia somehow already know that you are the deputy
so you have nothing left to lose
is this the famed Draichrog strategy we saw in R1? Claim cop and hope for the best? Is this the best Romeo can do for us? We're all doomed.


wertydoo wrote:
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Mendel wrote:
wertydoo wrote:
My initial thought is that the SK might have peeked Cruxell. This seems the most likely as I can't think of any other reason to target him. If he were really mafia, at least at this point in the game, the SK might be trying to make contact.

Your theory requires that Cruxell looked like mafia in R1. But as Katika pointed out (not the best source I know), Cruxell's activity explosion only happened R2.

So let's look at the Cruxell wagon. #329 is when Romeo starts pushing Lawliet, so this is when the Cruxell wagon becomes openly unviable (it was always unviable, but we didn't know that).
Romeo wrote:
Code:
Cruxell - 4 - Patrick, Mendel, Wertydoo, Numble
Lawliet - 2 - Cruxell, Romeo
Mendel - 1 - Blaze
Expected LHLV: Cruxell

No vote - 7 - JTc, Numble, Lawliet, Styx, Katika VS, Dangan, Emziek

Katika and Lawliet are not actually on that wagon, so it is possible they did know it was not viable.



Actually they're dead, so my scumteam guess is wrong anyway, it can only be Emz and Numble or Emz and Blaze. Hmm.

Would they have tried to get Cruxell lynched as doc? if they knew he was doc, then why, also that was Patrick and myself, so that didn't happen. When did we learn about the third informant? At that point, when werty revealed that, mafia/SK team would have known that the push would never see a repeat of R1 draichrog debacle. From that point on it gets very WIFOM-y. Sigh.


I would like to pool more information on the possibility of an Emziek Numble partnership.
However, I have an issue with your suggestion that the Mafia/Sk could coordinate in R1. From earlier, we pointed out that it's damn near impossible for them to have been communicating.

From my #419: "SK was not Mystic's person A or B (or C). Might have been fake cop, that would explain why Mafia and SK were able to coordinate the NK on Mystic"

The point is, it was damn near impossible for the double hit on Mystic to occur. The odds for the SK hitting that uncoordinated are 1/15; or maybe 2/15 if we accept that we would have found a double hit on Draichrog just as astounding. (What's the priorities, would the overdose come first, or would the stabbing use up a protection, with no overdose left?) You need to come up with an explanation for something as unlikely as that, and the theory that the SK was the fake cop fits the data, because it provides a) motivation for the SK to hit Mystic, and b) communication.

I'm afarid I don't have any more information on that partnership than what I have already posted.

The odds, astronomical? Yes. But how could the SK and mafia be in contact R1. It doesn't add up. I think this is one of those very rare situations where coincidence dominates fate.

Agreeing with Mendel on the Styx claim, wtf are you doing mate. Draich didn't do something smart; Mystic salvaged a terrible situation. Why are we repeating history?

Blaze wrote:
Emziek wrote:
Blaze wrote:
how are we not playing after my strats
Mendel is one of the last mafia
Numble is SK

Are u going to do a 1 in 7 chance on emziek before lynching one of these obvious threats?

Why are they obvious?


Numble the SK.
Cause numbles playstyle is very different this game compared to others. He stays low and is very quiet. Usually numble takes the lead, and disucsses alot. The only reason why he would stay low is because beeing sk. There is a difference between beeing a mafia and SK cause usually when you say something that brings attention, your mafiateamates can help u agree with your thoughts or more througly help you in bad situations by bringing other suspects to the table so your teamate wont be a suspect.

An SK dosent have this kind of help, and therefor needs to be causious with his actions and the way he interacts with people. Ofcourse there could be other suspects. But playing with numble a fair ammount of games helps u understand someones gamestyle. The way he plays is not usuall and there is a reason for that i stated before. He is the SK.

Mendel the mafia.
Mendel beeing mafia is less "obvious" because he is new in this community and understanding his gamestyle is hard. I think Mendel has done a very good job by the way he interacts with people, discusses andproves his points. Shoutout for that. I was alaways suspicious over Pat beeing mafia because the way he interacted with mendel and i told pat "if mendel is mafia then u sure as hell are". I was very wrong about that and guess that it makes me less trustable in this case. But I want to still take up how overdefensive he was when I brought up that he was mafia R0-R1, this is the mainreason (its psychological).

But you never listen about mendel. So Ill try numble
[Vote Numble]


Code:
Emziek - 2 - Wertydoo, Mendel
Numble - 2 - Styx, Blaze
No Vote - 6 - Romeo, Dangan, JTc, Emziek, Numble
Expected LHLV: Emziek


I don't know how I feel about this Blaze. It seems too obvious. Numble being as smart as we think he is, simply having a noticeably different playstyle seems like a rookie error to make and not in Numble's style. I personally do not think this is acceptable evidence.

Romeo wrote:
Mendel wrote:
[Vote Emziek]
Code:
Emziek - 2 - Wertydoo, Mendel
No Vote - 7 - Romeo, Styx, Dangan, JTc, Emziek, Numble, Blaze
Expected LHLV: Emziek

in b4 "Romeo says"

Nope, no Romeo says this round. You are welcome to follow if you wish but, its if you wanna win. Not gonna do something against town, hope you know that by now, after killing 2 mafias in 1 round.

[Vote Numble]

Code:
Emziek - 2 - Wertydoo, Mendel
Numble - 2 - Styx, Romeo, Blaze
No Vote - 4 - Dangan, JTc, Emziek, Numble
Expected LHLV: Emziek

Also would kindly ask you to stop being a dickhead and give me a break, its only your first game, lets stay friendly to each other.

Will change plan according to any info I encounter, thats the best bet.

Would appreciate if Dangan says something. Teach us your ways, master. We need you.

Also, fuck off. Had to edit the voting tally 3 times because of you guys voting before me, ffs.


Could this be because up until now you've been simply putting on theatrics while following out Mystic's plan which was set out for you? And now that the plan is over you have no more ideas? Hmm.
Curious.

Numble wrote:
Okay, so since everyone seems to think that I'm the SK, lemme tell you this already: I'm not.

If I really were the SK Emz, would be dead by now, I wouldn't have Mystic stabbed in R1 and among other actions

Honestly, I've been just sitting back. I've talked with a lot of people behind the scenes, shared my input with them. Romeo, Werty, Emz and even Mendel can confirm such.

I only opted out to stay out of R2 just to see how things would go down, so that I could keep my own list of suspects without becoming biased of other's opinions.

If voting me is you all saying "We've got the last mafia and SK", you're all wrong and highly consider you to reevaluate your arguments.


I can confirm that Numble and I have had casual talks. He doesn't seem to play inherently anti-village, he's just quiet. There are plenty of people currently the game that could fit this description, so why Numble?

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Code:
Mendel - 1 - Wertydoo
Numble - 6 - Styx, Romeo, Blaze, JTc, Emziek, Mendel
Dangan - 1 - Numble
No Vote - 1 - Dangan
Expected LHLV: Numble


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#466 (ISO #49)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R3 ends 8 PM EDT Wednesday
Numble wrote:
Main suspects:

Werty: Extremely active. Something just doesn't feel quite right about him.
Mendel: Extremely active as well. It's possible for to be the SK given how's been playing. Attempting to be pro village but actually fighting with a confirmed villager.
JTc: Awfully quiet. 0 input public. Typical troll but can be active if he feels like he's got a chance. Can be the SK considering he doesn't participate much publicly, so he'd avoid teh spot light.
Emz: Claiming Doc that early can lead to a coin. Could be Medic attempting to go for an OD or legit medic avoiding the main spotlight. Hard to read, tough to deal late game.
These are my main suspects at the moment. Will add more when I get home.


I guess I fit into my own model as well of being scummy because I am pro-village (My reasoning against Mendel). But, the thing is, everyone else here has voted on the same wagons that I have as well. And no one here has called my reasoning out as inherently flawed. So can you really say that I am the most suspect?

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#473 (ISO #50)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R3 ends 8 PM EDT Wednesday
Romeo wrote:
Time to expose everything and tell you guys the plan that might potentially end the game. As we all know we have 3 docs in the game. 1 is with mafia 2 are with us. 1 of ours is dead (Cruxell).
There are 2 left.
One of them has been helping us as townies, he claimed it to Numble and he also went against Kat when she showed the screenshot when everyone else believed that she was safe and clear.

Meanwhile, we have the other doctor who is a suspect who has been defending Numble, especially in this quote...
JTc wrote:
tbf we need to think about this lynch wisely as this is a gamedecider lynch, if Numble turns out to be villager, we could be fucked.
Trying to make us change our opinion on Numble, pretty f*cking obvious. He has also been trying to know information from me before I told everyone else,
Spoiler: show
JTc - Yesterday at 8:32 PM
Who is our next lynch target.
Romeo - Yesterday at 8:33 PM
Why cant you wait?
JTc - Yesterday at 8:33 PM
because
im fucking going to sleep
and id like to know, i hate being in the dark

Romeo - Yesterday at 8:33 PM
Fine.
But..
JTc - Yesterday at 8:33 PM
its mad annoying
Romeo - Yesterday at 8:33 PM
WAit
actually
JTc - Yesterday at 8:33 PM
Ok so.
Romeo - Yesterday at 8:33 PM
I cant do it
Because its gonna be super dangerous
JTc - Yesterday at 8:33 PM
You tell me the lynch target, what would I possibly do with that info.
Romeo - Yesterday at 8:33 PM
I have to do like I did this round
JTc - Yesterday at 8:33 PM
Fine.
Romeo - Yesterday at 8:34 PM
Keep it till the end
JTc - Yesterday at 8:34 PM
anyways gn
Romeo - Yesterday at 8:34 PM
Good night and thanks for the help!

May 29, 2018

Romeo - Today at 8:33 AM
JTc, your next protection is for Wertydoo.(edited)
JTc - Today at 9:49 AM
Got you
JTc - Today at 10:11 AM
After what you pulled last round, not even gonna question anything xD
Romeo - Today at 10:12 AM
It was a team effort, you did your part my dude.
JTc - Today at 10:12 AM
:smiley:
Still to early for lynch target?
Romeo - Today at 10:32 AM
Yes.
JTc - Today at 10:32 AM
Got cha.
Romeo - Today at 10:33 AM
End of today should be found with evidence. Tomorrow should start voting.
JTc - Today at 10:33 AM
yeah theres plenty of time

I know I basically highlighted everything, but he was the only doctor that questioned me like this. He was the only one who kept wanting to know what was happening next.

Now, I did put all 3 doctors on Kat 2nd round which is why she died, the mafia had to know that an OD was coming since I had the 3 docs in hand, so JTc did it anyways because she was dead either way.

JTc was also the one on Draich on 1st round, the mafia obviously knew that Draich had PR after claiming it himself, so he could protect me and that is why they decided to put another doctor on him so he can be OD'd. Sorry Draich. Thanks for your sacrifice!
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Romeo - Last Sunday at 3:20 PM
Jtc who did you protect last round?
JTc - Last Sunday at 3:21 PM
draich :/

There is the chatlogs that show that he was protecting Numble ONCE AGAIN
Spoiler: show
Numble SK?
cause im just following blaze for the memes
Romeo - Today at 2:38 PM
He might actually be mafia but either or its a threat to the village
JTc - Today at 2:38 PM
sk should be lynched first :/
since thats -1 daily kill
if we kill 1 mafia, they can still kill
if you get me
Romeo - Today at 2:39 PM
Yea.
Working on it still!
JTc - Today at 2:39 PM
But its hard to know who is who at this point
JTc - Today at 8:55 PM
We need to think this through, if Numble isn't SK its possible that we've lost.
Not sure what you think about this.

Romeo - Today at 8:57 PM
I got a plan thats gonna work
JTc - Today at 9:06 PM
kk


This is how the rest of the game will go.

This round Numble would be dead. 1 mafia down. Mafia will most likely shoot a villager with a PR but the doctor (Emz) knows what he is doing. Deputy is going for the peek for the possible SK since we know both mafias at this point. Should have 1 villager dead by this round, or 2, depending on how smart the mafia is.

Next round Full on JTc. Will have 1 mafia and the SK, will also have 2-3 villagers. We lynch mafia.

Only SK left now, if Deputy's peek fails then we still have a huge percentage of hitting the possible SK with the lynch with 1-2 villagers on last round. That would be game. That is my plan. Now let's get to work and LETS GET THIS DUB! Any suspicions or any thoughts, would love to know about them.


These are some YAMS.
So, this puts Numble and JTc right into the spotlight. Personally though, I would argue that Numble's behavior is still too circumstantial and he could possible be safe. JTc on the other hand, comes off as very scummy with the doctor claim in conjunction with the rest of Romeo's post. I think it would be better to lynch him first.
With that said,
I hope everyone else agrees.
[vote Jtc]

Code:
Numble - 6 - Styx, Romeo, Blaze, JTc, Emziek, Mendel
JTc - 2 - Numble, Wertydoo
No Vote - 1 - Dangan
Expected LHLV: Numble


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#476 (ISO #51)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R3 ends 8 PM EDT Wednesday
JTc wrote:
lmao numble, that took a quick turn. All I said was we should be careful about who we lynch as this round is a gamedecider in my opinion and everyone turns on me

I think it was probably more to do with Romeo's reveal.
But yea.

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#478 (ISO #52)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R3 ends 8 PM EDT Wednesday
JTc wrote:
wertydoo wrote:
JTc wrote:
lmao numble, that took a quick turn. All I said was we should be careful about who we lynch as this round is a gamedecider in my opinion and everyone turns on me

I think it was probably more to do with Romeo's reveal.
But yea.

i mean, i dont mind being lynched to show him he's wrong, at least I am not the one losing us the game in that case.


Well considering Round 2's discord. Would it really be a loss if Romeo threw the game?
The way I see it, your flip is gonna be a win-win no matter what. :D

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#496 (ISO #53)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R3 ends 8 PM EDT Wednesday
Shadi wrote:
Also discuss it in a separate topic, not here

Fight me Shadi.

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#505 (ISO #54)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R3 ends 8 PM EDT Wednesday
JTc wrote:
:kappa:


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#509 (ISO #55)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R3 ends 8 PM EDT Wednesday
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GG. I tried. Got 3. 2 of which were with the help of Mystic. Be careful and make your arguments sounding. Good luck to the rest!


thx bby. ILL DO IT FOR YOU!! :D

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#521 (ISO #56)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R3 ends 8 PM EDT Wednesday
Blaze wrote:
oh I forgot to add the tally. I wish I COULD EDIT MY POST.

Code:
Mendel - 1 - Blaze

No vote - 5?-  Dangan, Romeo, wertydoo, Numble, Emziek


wait for Styx's peek.

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#523 (ISO #57)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R3 ends 8 PM EDT Wednesday
Blaze wrote:
wertydoo wrote:
Blaze wrote:
oh I forgot to add the tally. I wish I COULD EDIT MY POST.

Code:
Mendel - 1 - Blaze

No vote - 5?-  Dangan, Romeo, wertydoo, Numble, Emziek


wait for Styx's peek.


yea great. Tell the mafia and the sk who the fucking dep is. Thats great man. If ure villager, and i am, and dep/doc knows eachother. Then they already know who the last mafia and sk is, so lets kill the mafia? and then kill the sk. Then we win. easy

Blaze... The deputy and Doctor have been publicly claimed in thread since last round. There is nothing to reveal. Everyone knows everyon's roles besides the SK and Medic.

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#524 (ISO #58)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R3 ends 8 PM EDT Wednesday
im actually leaning toward @Joxuu
some things to consider
1) there is an SK and a tough still alive
Joxuu - Today at 11:27 AM
sorry I don't swing that way
Shaco Bell - Today at 11:27 AM
2) the SK has two votes
⭐Styx MR GOLD FUCKING STAR - Today at 11:27 AM
My 2 targets last round died
Shaco Bell - Today at 11:27 AM
3) We can assume Emz and Styx are the prs they claim to be
⭐Styx MR GOLD FUCKING STAR - Today at 11:27 AM
Both woulda been peeked mafia
Shaco Bell - Today at 11:27 AM
4) that makes Dangan, Myself, Mendel, and Blaze the suspects
5) Mendel and I have had very much pro-town thread games
that's observable information I dont think anyone here will dispute
6) Blaze is trolly as fuck but this is nothing new from towny blaze
and somehow
he always survives to the last rounds because of it
(lowkey he actually the best mafia player here
)

Styx's peek was on Numble, which doesn't help us all that much. The above points allow me to start a case against Dangan. Now, the way this round needs to be played is VERY carefully.
The goal is, if we lynch the medic, we win. If we lynch anyone else (including SK), we lose.
This round is going to be purely about reads and information on thread posts. The night actions are not going to help anyone here.
Good luck everyone and god help us all.
[vote Dangan]
Code:
Mendel - 1 - Blaze
Dangan - 1 - Wertydoo

No vote - 4 -  Dangan, Styx, Emziek, Mendel
Expected LHLV: Mendel

Also blaze this tally was all kinds of fucked. Get on it my dude.

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#527 (ISO #59)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R3 ends 8 PM EDT Wednesday
Dangan wrote:
Why can't we edit posts...

I was away for few years and the place has gone backwards in progress.


nD has become really fascist. Katika already attempted a bussing attempt. I feel like it would be foolish to try it a second time so it doesn't really make sense for me to attempt it as the medic. I'm smarter than that. Mendel 's voting patterns do seems a little erratic. This is something to take into consideration but then again a couple of villagers have also ahd erratic behavior. This isn't enough for me to change my vote yet.

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#536 (ISO #60)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R3 ends 8 PM EDT Wednesday
Dangan wrote:
Didn't have as much time as I wanted to spend on the game but I'll make a last line of defense for fellow villagers who put the effort into winning this.

I voted with Romeo and made the decisive vote against Lawliet that tipped the iceberg.

Fairly certain everyone currently alive this round voted for Lawliet.
Can someone fact check me?

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#543 (ISO #61)  Re: Mafia XXXXI: Defibrilation (Redux) R3 ends 8 PM EDT Wednesday
Emziek wrote:
been preetty busy ever since wednesday

Gut still says werty, one too many coincidences, but fuck it

but I love you

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