Never tell your password to anyone.
Ultor: yo
Six: hey
Ultor: you've been awfully quiet this game
Six: I think I've been rather active
Ultor: You havent even posted anything regarding the R2 vote
Six: R2? You mean on K0ntra? I posted a lot in regards to that vote
Ultor: No the fact that most of those who voted got shot and survived
Six: Doctors, fortitude, blast shields, medic (mafia x2), there could be a lot of explanations
Ultor: There were no blast shields
Six: How do you know+
Ultor: Politician: 4
Soothsayer: 3
Poison: 1
Brutal: 1
Immunity: 3
Fortitude: 2
Spiritborne: 0
Blast Shield: 0
Vote Savant: 2
Insight: 1
Hinder: 0
Six: Oh
Six: Good point
Six: (continuing on what I was about to say)... And Emz (?) already called a FoS on them for surviving the attack, suggesting the possibility of Medics having saved them. So I was kind of thinking in the same course.
Six: Not something I originally paid attention to (wouldn't have noticed it) if he didn't call it out.
Ultor: Okay, so what do you think about my cop claim?
Six: I think it's legit. Unless you are a Don from Mafia team 1 and you know the real cop is dead.
Six: But in all honesty, there's little point in suspecting you for that. The town can't afford it. And even if you are the Don, I'd still team up with you, since we have a common enemy (Mafia 2). So eitherway I'd trust you and have Numble killed.
Ultor: The fact that I've been aruging with so many people in addition with the number of base powers related to Politician makes that very unlikely, dont you think?
Ultor: Alright then
Ultor: So you got not problem with joining the vote to lynch numble then?
Six: I do
Six: I can't be voting him, since I chose Soothsayer R2, for better or worse.
Ultor: Interesting
Ultor: so no we have 4 soothsayers
Ultor: now
Ultor: Can you claim that on topic for me then?
Ultor: Would help out the village
Six: I'd prefer not.
Ultor: Why's that?
Six: Because if we go late game, I want the Mafia to believe I hold voting power. So instead of killing those few alive who can actually vote, they will kill me. If they kill the person who can vote, we won't have any lynching power.
Six: However, if you want me to claim, I will.
Six: At any rate, there's one thing you should double check. HATER posted a list after R2 in regards to everyone's powers. 3 Soothsayers in total. Now, did he mean LIVING roles? If so, Emziek, I and Leo could very well all 3 be Soothsayers. Because Panda dided R1. But did he mean TOTAL, then 1 of us, most likely Leo, is lying.
Ultor: Yeah thats the problem
Ultor: Thats why its better to claim it, you will still be able to have abit of control over votes even if the mafia did know you were a soothsayer
Six: But lets say there's 1 mafia and 2 town members alive. If the mafia kills my teammate (who can vote) they won, because I can't vote him. if they kill me, however, I can remvoe a vote from my teammate and have him lynch the enemy.
Six: In such case, knowing I was a soothsayer, would lose us the game
Six: Oh nvm
Six: I don't even count for parity, so maf wins eitherway. Forget everything I said
Ultor: Yeah
Six: You are right
Six: But we should still double check with hater
Ultor: ive asked him
Six: what did he say?
Ultor: give me a sec
Ultor: The base powers of the dead ones are still counted
Six: Alright
Six: Then leo or emziek is lying (or me, but I know I'm not)
Six: And you seem to also suspect Leo
Ultor: Correct
Ultor: So if u were a soothsayer then
Ultor: why did u vote on kontra?
Six: I wasn't soothsayer R2
Ultor: oh yeah
Six: I randomed immunity R1 because I afked
Ultor: okay then
Six: R2 I was roleblocked, while immune to roleblocks, so I just became a soothsayer
Ultor: and why did u choose soothsayer in the first place?
Ultor: could have chosen something else, like vote savant
Ultor: I'm pretty sure you would like that
Six: Perhaps, but I considered Vote Savant would be useless if I got myself killed early on. As such, I chose Soothsayer, to be able to influence the game even after death.
Ultor: Okay, imma go afk for bit
Six: Because keep in mind, there's 1 Vigilante, 2 nightkills from 2 different mafia team, poisons, hitmen etc
Six: And even lynch
Ultor: Alright, I think it would be best for the village if u can claim it
Ultor: that way we can figure out who's the fake even if I end up dying
Ultor: and then establish any connections to anyone else coming from that person
Six: It's likely Leo
Ultor: very likely
Six: But even if I claim today, we'll still lynch Numble
Ultor: That's okay, I will probably end up dying this round
Ultor: and no1 else knows you're a soothsayer
Ultor: You may aswell be a mafia
Six: Well, you don't know either. For all you know, I could be lying to you. But I understand why you want me to claim.
Six: Would be disastrous if you died and then I claimed something entirely different than soothsayer
Ultor: Exactly
Ultor: If you claimed now and I end up dying, then its up for the others to figure out whos the fake one.
Six: I'd trust Emziek tho
Ultor: Why's that
Six: Since he has pointed out quite a few interesting things + claimed Soothsayer
Six: Just a gut feeling.
Six: We also know Voro's poulo is a negative peek
Ultor: I wouldn't trust anyone without peeking them
Six: Well, you have to gamble on it
Ultor: Yeah it would be very bad if he ends up being a godfather
Six: Lets say Voro's poulo, you (Ultor), I (Six) and Emziek trust each other (gamble)
Six: that makes 8 of the living ones Mafia (unless Panda was mafia)
Ultor: I dont think panda is a mafia now
Six: Leo, Numble, Maki, Waywardvole, Katcrusader, arsenic, Ish and Rainboy
Ultor: He would have voted if he was
Six: these number 8 in total
Six: and if we don't suspect Panda, we can believe all 8 of these to be mafia, can't we?
Six: Arsenic did claim Vigilante tho
Ultor: Yeah
Six: so I'd hold his lynch off for a while
Six: But we still have 7 targets
Ultor: Who do you recommend for me to peek?
Ultor: thats if i end up surviving by a miracle lol
Six: I'd not recommend peeking these: Six, Emziek, Voro's Pulo, Ultor (you), Panda (dead soothsayer) and Arsenic (Vigilante claim). Alive is Ish, Rainboy, Numble (confirmed mafia), Leo (suspected mafia), Lawliet, Waywardvole, Katcrusader and Maki. You could peek anyone of these except Leo and Numble.
Six: We got enough circumstantial evidence to lynch all 8 of them if we only had enough rounds.
Six: So your peek only works to confirm our suspicion
Ultor: Okay, I might end up peeking either Maki or Waywardvole
Six: Alright. I think the town should group up. We may want to get in touch with Emziek, Voro's poulo and Arsenic.
Six: There's a possibility some of these may be Mafia, but honestly, we have to risk it
Ultor: Yeah I've tried contacting Arsenic
Ultor: no response on PM
Six: Arsenic said he shot lawliet and katcrusader as Vigilante (if I'm not wrong). Both of those 2 are on our list of suspicion and he's not ciunter-claimed. So I'd give arsenic a green flag
Ultor: Agreed
Six: As for Emziek, he has suspected Rainboy (for good reasons) and pointed out the medic's potential to have saved fellow mafia members. He's likely also in the green.
Ultor: I wouldnt jump to conclusions that fast
Six: And Voro's poulo was peeked NS. There's a possibility he's GF. But he's one of the last people we would lynch, keeping in mind that we have so many other suspects
Six: Yes, Ultor, but we need something to go on. At max we are like... 5 (?) town members alive versus 8 Mafia. This game is as good as already lost for us. Especially since we have 2 soothsayers who can't even kill anyone in the lynch. We only have one shot, and that shot requires us to work like a group of Masons while we have the chance
Six: I think you are the only one who can bring this group together
Ultor: Alright, I will see what I can do
Ultor: So when are you going to claim soothsayer?
Six: Was waiting for you to call for everyone first, assembling a group chat
Ultor: I wont do that
Ultor: Atleast not yet
Six: Why not?
Ultor: Its better that way
Ultor: If I end up dying, someone else will do it instead of me
Six: There's no one else who can, except Arsenic. But your claims is more credible than his.
Ultor: Don't worry about it
Six: And what happens if both of you die in the samr night?
Ultor: There will be someone else
Six: There won't
Ultor: Don't worry

Ultor: And why would the mafia kill Arsenic in the first place?
Ultor: He's pretty much useless other than the fact that hes a confirmed villager
Six: There are 9 Villagers in tota. 3 is confirmed dead and Panda may very well be our 4th. That makes us 6 villagers alive, with you and Arsenic being the most credible one. Remaining, we have me, Emziek and Voro's Poulo. Even if we got together, we wouldn't be able to do anything.
Six: 5 villagers alive with panda possibly being a dead 6th member*
Ultor: Yes but do remember that the mafia will need to kill each other
Six: Yes, but right now, we should assemble so we can discuss what we will do. Making plans etc. We may not want to lynch Numble today
Ultor: Its very likely that I will be perm-blocked (as Rainboy stated) rather than wasting a shot on me. Remember its very likely that we have 2 Vixens
Six: I think Rainboy is more dangerous and we should discuss that together
Six: since we may want to manipulate the mafia into attacking each other
Ultor: This isnt the best round to do that
Ultor: We can do that next round
Ultor: For now, we cant trust anyone
Six: Why next round when we can do it now?
Ultor: Thats why I dont want possible villagers to contact each other, if a mafia infiltrates it would cause a disastrous loss to the village
Ultor: None of you guys is a 100% confirmed villager
Six: Thing is, we have already lost. It can't get any worse. It can only get better. Right now, you won't be able to confirm anyone 100%. You'll have to use circumstantial evidence as you go on your gut feeling.
Ultor: I disagree, the game is not as good as lost, the mafia needs to kill the other team. and the later they start the more likely the enemy team has already start thinning their numbers down. Our job is not be caught in the crossfire.
Six: Yes, they need to kill each other. But you know, the odds of them shooting me and Emziek is large. They don't know whether we are town or maf. and if they didn't pay attention, they may also shoot Voro's poulo.
Six: We need to discuss together to create a situation where they will shoot each other
Ultor: I'd rather take the odds of them shooting random targets than having a mafia infiltrate this circle of trust- it would be more devasating
Six: Well, you know, the Mafia already know you and arsenic is town. The only thing they could learn is that I, Emziek and voro is likely town. If I'm Mafia, I've already informed my teammates of this anyway. If Emziek or Voro's poulo is mafia, all they will is inform about me + emziek or me + voro. And in such a case, they will know not to shoot us. Basically, they will have it confirmed who the enemy team is, and isn't that what we want?
Ultor: As I said, I believe its better that way. I see where you coming from and I understand your frustration to get everyone together, however, as the cop, I completetly disagree with doing this at this round. We can simply wait and hope for good new next round.
Six: Well, it's your call. Only you and Arsenic can do this. But know that it may already be too late by the time you want to do it. While I and Emziek can be killed, our alignment will not be revealed. As such, you can't ever trust us 100%, even if we are dead. As for Voro, there's always the possibility of him being the Godfather. At any rate, the situation won't improve.
Ultor: Yeah hopefully things change by next round
Six: Leo just screwed up big time. With that in mind, know what I'd recommend? Holding back on reavling myself as the Soothsayer, so we can count our cards next round. It would limit our cards if I'd reveal it to counter-claim someone who already blew his cover. But to be sure I'm still not lying, you should share this log with Arsenic. The second most trustworthy town member.
Ultor: Will see about that later on today
Ultor: lets give it abit of time
Six: Alright, come back to me later with your decision
Ultor: Sure
Six: HATER: yo
Six: yo
HATER: blah blah blah make game related post or be modkilled blah blah
Six: Need to post anyway
Ultor: lol
Ultor: just dont put a vote though
Six: Yup
Ultor: even if it was no lynch

Six: Meh, I regret choosing Soothsayer right now. Wish I was Blast shield or Poison.
Ultor: Yeah weird only 1 posion
Ultor: too bad he didnt kill anyone yet XD
Six: The Mafia may have chosen Poison as a role
Six: Infector: May poison 3 (4 with poison base power) players per game (maximum of two targets per night). A player that is poisoned will die one round after if they do not have the Immunity base power. Players that are poisoned will be cured if the doctor targets them before they die. If a player has a Blast Shield activated on them at the time of death, the progression of the poison will be paused until the Blast Shield wears off. [Targeted]'
Ultor: With roles like vixen, doc, don and con man
Ultor: i dont think its likely
Six: At any rate, what you should do now (I'm too lazy) is to create a picture of who belongs to which team. we kind of know the Mafia, not we want to know who belongs to which team. So we don't kill everyone from e.g. Maf team 2 and end up with everyone in Maf team 1 alive
Six: We want to balance the centralization of power
Ultor: Thats a very good point
Six: With that said, I'll go read for my exams now. If you post, I'll read up later.
Six: Or send a message? i guess post doesn't work here.
Ultor: Sure, gl with ur exams
Ultor: ill see what i can dop
Six: Thanks
Ultor: Just letting you know that I've told Emizek about your base power
Six: Alright
Ultor: But keep that hidden for now
Six: I think we want to check waywardvole and Ish
Six: Mafia team 2: Numble, Lawliet and Maki. Mafia team 1: Leo and Rainboy
Six: Unknown: Katcrusader, Ish and waywardvole
Six: could katcrusader be team 2 with ish and wayward being team 1?
Ultor: Yeah I was thinking about checking Rainboy, Ish, kat
Ultor: most likely kat though
Six: Rainboy isn't on the same team as Numble and Maki
Ultor: what makes u think that maki is a mafia?
Six: Because he's 1 of the 8 people most likely to be Mafia. And besides, he has been trying to push a lynch on Rainboy. Nothing suspicious with this, but it proves they aren't on the same team. And based on Numble's chatlgos with Rainboy, I don't believe they are on the same team. And since you know, as a fact, that Numble is on team 2, then it makes it very likely that Maki too is on team 2, with rainboy being on team 1
Six: Team 1: Rainboy, Leo, Ish and Waywardvole. Team 2: Numble, Lawliet, Maki and Katcrusader. I've good reasons to believe this to be the case. So keep it in mind.
Ultor: Good point
Ultor: I'm going afk for abit
Six: And I'm going off :p
Ultor: will probably talk to u later
Six: Got school tomorrow
Ultor: oh alright
Six: so I won't be on for the rest of the night
Ultor: cya tmw then
Six: Lets hope all of us still live tomorrow.
Ultor: haha yeah
Six: Want me to vote numble to remove one of his votes?
Ultor: nah just dont vote anything
Six: Alright