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#21 (ISO #1)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
I didn't read any rule or power role right now of this game but why not give it a try and as i can see no Ultor here ahahahh :lol:
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#24 (ISO #2)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
NumBle wrote:
HATER wrote:

SweedyGonzales wrote:
@HATER
With 48 hour rounds and no school, I think I manage not to afk.



Confirmed. :)

if he doesn't keep his end of teh bargain I'ma whoop his ass so hard he gonna have a twitch


I'll help you then Numble...we will get his ass in here and don't let him stay afk :lol:

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#29 (ISO #3)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
NumBle wrote:
ARSENIC wrote:
[In]

Inb4 confirmed villagers gets voted by Arsenic because suspecious.


Haha so ruude Numble...all is called tactic...and he have his thoughts for doing it...nowadays you can't trust anyone also not if he is confirmed villager :lol:

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#34 (ISO #4)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
Shadi wrote:
hater looking mighty suspicious about now......

Where is your [in] Shadi???
Come on we wont get that much afk's in here ;)

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#36 (ISO #5)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
Shadi wrote:
!!!*_Uncle-Leo_*!!! wrote:
Shadi wrote:
hater looking mighty suspicious about now......

Where is your [in] Shadi???
Come on we wont get that much afk's in here ;)

not happening.


:( :o

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#128 (ISO #6)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
NumBle wrote:
[vote !!*_Uncle-Leo_*!!!]

You've been oddly quiet for someone who tends to be one of the most active newbies on the Ww forums... any thoughts/plans or anything you'd have to say?


Hi :)
Well to be honest i still read all over and over again. And feel a bit "blame my age for my shitty english" to understand all clearly...also you guys confuse me if i read all you colour post, but i do like them specially katCrusaders yellow to blue colour changes :D
Also it is no excuse but i added like 5-10 guys on steam friendslist which ones ask me now every day like 100 of questions about JB, bans, forum and so on...mostly i tend to not say no to anyone who need my help which leads to it that i type and type and try between that all to enjoy a bit fun in the servers and maybe soon here :mrgreen: :pray: :mrgreen:

My plan is to read more this time and follow all your posts to not get seen as a noob in this game (what im actually with all that roles that exist) and try to do my best to help my mates.

So i don't really know what to do and say
[vote ARSENIC]

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#148 (ISO #7)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
What a bit suspect is for me is SiX voted on Panda.
Then Sweedy changed his vote from Kontra to Panda.
And now Kontra vote on Panda.
So that looks a bit for me that those 3 maybe play for the same team (mafia 1 or 2).
I don't know for which team Panda plays, maybe for mafia too but that bandwagon on him, with the spontanly vote change from Sweedy = Kontra --> Panda is suspicious for me and voting on him if he is new doesnt make really sense for me. Maybe he played some games like this in another place and not in nD. For me i can't say much to him e.g. he is new.

I would like to change my vote to one of those 3 and after i feel like they need to protect SiX wit that vote i go on with my vote on SiX. Also his Isolate shows 3 post at all too and he is mostly more active if he plays for village (just my thoughts). I think Panda deserves a chance to stay allive and i would like to read out a bit more of him in some posts. Be sure Panda my next vote goes on you next round if i don't hear more from you and your thoughts.

[vote SiX]

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#155 (ISO #8)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
Rainboy wrote:
!!!*_Uncle-Leo_*!!! wrote:
What a bit suspect is for me is SiX voted on Panda.
Then Sweedy changed his vote from Kontra to Panda.
And now Kontra vote on Panda.
So that looks a bit for me that those 3 maybe play for the same team (mafia 1 or 2).
I don't know for which team Panda plays, maybe for mafia too but that bandwagon on him, with the spontanly vote change from Sweedy = Kontra --> Panda is suspicious for me and voting on him if he is new doesnt make really sense for me. Maybe he played some games like this in another place and not in nD. For me i can't say much to him e.g. he is new.

I would like to change my vote to one of those 3 and after i feel like they need to protect SiX wit that vote i go on with my vote on SiX. Also his Isolate shows 3 post at all too and he is mostly more active if he plays for village (just my thoughts). I think Panda deserves a chance to stay allive and i would like to read out a bit more of him in some posts. Be sure Panda my next vote goes on you next round if i don't hear more from you and your thoughts.

[vote SiX]


I thought SiX's post about being a bully and Kontra's argument for lynching a new player because he's new both seemed fishy, but I certainly wouldn't go around calling them mafia yet.


@Kontra - Lynching new players is bad both in a game sense and a meta game sense. On the meta side, lynching new players without cause serves to make the game elitist where the 'experienced' players control the game and kill off the new players so they can decide things amongst themselves. New players should be fostered and given chances to get better at the game. On the game side, new players are incredibly easy to read, in general, and when deciding who to lynch with no info (our standard R1 situation), it's usually best to lynch people you have a hard time reading. A new player will usually reveal whether he's mafia later in the game because of his inexperience.

In short, lynching new players is bad unless you have a good reason. FoS on you for that. Seems to me like a cop out; perhaps to save SiX as Leo said, or perhaps just because you haven't thought through the logic.


My thoughts went on (maybe) mafias if villagers don't know each other.

And as i said it makes no sense for me that Sweedy changed his vote to Panda without telling us why he decided to do it.

Also that Kontra give one a vote from which he don't know anything isn't that smart too in my opinion...because he call him new or noobish and can't be sure he is or must be one like that in this mafia game.
New players like him (Panda) can be villagers too and don't post that much at the beginning to stay allive for the town, what wouldn't be wrong at all.
A lot of players posted only 1 or 2 things and Kontra could easy vote on them to make a bit pressure on those instead of starting a small bandwagon on Panda.

Well nvm my vote doesn't lead to get SiX lynched but i will hold it on him to hear more from him too.

@Kontra you just show me more and more what a retard you are...can you stop your provocation for once???
I dont need retarded and useless comments from you like that : No new player is that bad (with the exception
of Leo)
GFY

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#220 (ISO #9)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
Ultor wrote:
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[vote Rainboy] sorry for mistake xD

And why are you voting to lynch him?

Since Lawliet has replied, I'm switching to NumBle [vote NumBle]

Also still waiting for replies from Leo, Emizek, Ish, ARSENIC and everyone else regarding this late BW lynch against Styx. Not replying would only add suspicion to you guys.

[color=#Disallowed-GERTY]And Maki (experienced player) + WaywardVole (experienced player) + Panda (new player)[/color]

As for Kontra, it was this post that makes me want to believe he's a village; it's way too risky saying this considering that we have many experienced players around. Might ISO him later on today though (along with other people).

K0ntRa wrote:
Vanillager three times in a row fml.


My thoughts:

Atm everyone can be suspicious we have no proven villagers which makes it harder if we have 2 mafia teams in this game.

Suspicious is for me Maki and Ish 2 experienced players comes up with busy or i post soon more. 48hour rounds should be enough time for everyone who participate in this game. And it looks a little bit like an excuse to not get in the focus of anyone.
Also WaywardVole played a lot of games in his/this own style. Mostly do not post that much at all and suceed a/the victory allone if he was the SK in one game or if he played as a mate of a town.
Many things are suspicious for me as i posted in my last reply to Numble.

Normally i would go with my vote on Panda as i mentioned in my last post but it was a little try to make pressure on him that he start posting more too.
Most of all games in which i participated the villagers been the most active poster what surely makes me suspicious too if i didn't posted that much so far.

My excuses:
1) I added sadly (they dont give me time to breathe) to much newcomers which spam me the holy day with messages on steam to get informations about the servers and the forum or those who wanna trade their house for nD $$$ with me :)
2) Mostly if i tried to be active as a villager and posted the s**t out of me, some came up with claiming villager in public makes you suspicious and some just didn't saw the light that i've been villager and still voted on me and got me lynched as a villager.
3) I do like to read a bit more now about all thoughts from everyone before i make some decission for my own who i think is a potentially mafia guy and who not, what isnt that easy if we have 2 mafia teams inside the game (btw nice game from the host, brings a lot of fun in it).
4) I'm a bit more busy too for some private reasons and mostly try to come often on in the mafia game and just read what all posted to not lose the contact to the game.

So as i said it everyone is actually suspicious for me since no one made for real a mistake which we can read out of any post and this game is harder than the other ones before in my opinion.

If Panda is mafia he is not the strongest target right now in my opinion (ok maybe he is too with the help of his teammates) but i do feel i need to focus for now more on the 3 experienced players i mentioned on top of this reply = Maki, Ish and WaywardVole.

I also do not share your opinion Ultor that Kontra post just a little thing like "Vanillager three times in a row fml" what let me believe direct that he might/must be villager. In this game there is still no risk for him if he is active and have the chance to let all focus on others if he put his fingers on different players and get easy out of the centerview if he need to do it. I think your statement about him with that doesn't really match with the gameplay style you mostly use before you make so fast a decission or sharing a thought like this. It can be too that you just give this small note to him too to (mabye) protect your teammate = Kontra for which team whoever you both play.

I feel like i wanna see in this game more from WaywardVole and so i go with my vote on him just to get him more inside this game and to get him to the point that he post more and share more of his thoughts.

[vote WaywardVole]

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#221 (ISO #10)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
Sorry Ish you posted your reply at the time i made mine =)
I mentioned that i didn't saw much from you in this game too as an experienced player.

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#224 (ISO #11)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
Ultor wrote:
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Suspicious is for me Maki and Ish 2 experienced players comes up with busy or i post soon more. 48hour rounds should be enough time for everyone who participate in this game. And it looks a little bit like an excuse to not get in the focus of anyone.


Quote:
4) I'm a bit more busy too for some private reasons and mostly try to come often on in the mafia game and just read what all posted to not lose the contact to the game.


Image


Yep agree, thers is a contradiction in it and i just deffend myself too before you come up with "Also still waiting for replies from Leo, Emizek, Ish, ARSENIC and everyone else regarding this late BW lynch against Styx. Not replying would only add suspicion to you guys.

And i did wrote too: Most of all games in which i participated the villagers been the most active poster what surely makes me suspicious too if i didn't posted that much so far.

And: 2) Mostly if i tried to be active as a villager and posted the s**t out of me, some came up with claiming villager in public makes you suspicious and some just didn't saw the light that i've been villager and still voted on me and got me lynched as a villager.

So im busy too and wont post too much for no real reasons. I'm pretty sure all your isolations and calculations from others will help us enough to make the right decissions.
Just a joke take it easy :P

Btw why you didn't mentioned Maki and WaywardVole if they didn't replied for real too? Do you have a reason for that?

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#225 (ISO #12)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
@Ultor
I know you like screenshots of many things so i can show you one which happend some minutes ago, where you can see what i meant or mentioned with steam and with no breathe for me http://imgur.com/a/ptGqb

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#235 (ISO #13)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
NumBle wrote:
Jesus H. Christ, a person is gone for a day and a shitstorm takes over... okay I need to make at least a game related post so that Hater doesn't go super sayan hater. So I guess here it goes.

Let's start with a "Fuck you but have a nice day" Ultor:

Ultor wrote:
Okay, so we need to concentrate on those 4, there is atleast 1 mafia here.
Code:
Styx - 4 - NumBle, Rainboy, Lawliet, katCrusader

The fact that Rainboy, Lawliet and katCrusader changed their vote just before round end is very suspicious- especially the time difference between Lawliet's and katCrusaders's post: only 6 mins. This suggests that there is a connection between the 2.

Erm.. What? That's completely stupid to be honest. That's like saying that if I were to post 6 minutes after you, we were somewhat related. Or in fact that anyone's post is related to the previous person who posted. Seriously Ultor doesn't even seem like I gave you tips on how to play Werewolf. Moving on.

NumBle's reason to lynch Styx:
NumBle wrote:
Because I wanna hear what you have to say and considering you know how to play this better than most people here, quite odd you're behaving "stupidly".

Note that the quote above was the only post related to the vote, even though Styx responded, NumBle kept his vote.

He did? I didn't see it. Nevermind that now, he ded anyways.

NumBle wrote:
And back then I had a Power role. Does it look like I have one now if I'm shouting all around the game? Besides voting off someone who's active is like grabbing a dagger and backstabbing each villager one by one.

This was NumBle's reply to my post. From this we conclude that NumBle does not have any PR role (IF he was telling the truth). Again as mentioned previously, NumBle's activity and playstyle does not match in this game. I've noticed from the games he played that he becomes very active as a mafia and stays low as a villager. Please do note that mafia tend to be active too, so voting someone who is active is not "backstabbing each villager one by one".

Ok first of all, stop trying to copy my strategy. That only worked once and Hater was on the end of who was getting voted off. Second, how long do you know me? Or have you been playing with me? Just because I took you once under my wing and almost pulled off a perfect game doesn't make you the almighty Werewolf player. "Don't let it get to your head" - Rainboy, after I manage to pull off such an amazing game before. This should pretty much debulk this whole paragraph. Cuz "Please do note that mafia tend to be active too" is pretty much the same thing as saying "please do note that villagers tend to be active too". And as Rain has mentioned. Voting active people IS backstabbin' each villager one by one.

Rainboy's reason to lynch Styx:
Rainboy wrote:
I don't like this panda wagon. Things have been too quiet, which suggests to me that he's not mafia or, if he is, the mafia isn't worried about his lynch. Too many actives for him to be AFK; too few votes for the mafia to be worried about looking suspicious by saving him.

Wayward offered enough to satisfy me, but Styx has been pretty useless so far this game. I'll throw my hat in the ring to see what we get with his lynch.

According to this we can see that Rainboy voted to lynch Styx solely based on his opinion- there was no logical reason to not vote Panda. Panda didn't even try to defend himself, he simply counter-voted Six.

Connection between NumBle and Rainboy (accourding to the steam logs posted by Rainboy):
Quote:
12:50 AM - Rainboy: I tried to start it earlier, but I was at church.
12:50 AM - Rainboy: And it took Xen and Lawliet a bloody hour to write their posts. - This is true, I was bothering Lawliet every 5 minutes about his post.
12:50 AM - Rainboy: Which made it tighter than I really wanted.
12:50 AM - Rainboy: Not enough time for people to respond.
12:51 AM - Kaebbel: You organized it?
12:51 AM - Rainboy: Numble and I did, yeah.
12:51 AM - Rainboy: I was uneasy with the panda lynch, for the reasons I stated.

So we know that Rainboy and NumBle were behind the Styx lynch. However, the fact that Rainboy revealed such crucial information to Emizek suggests multiple scenarios: 1. NumBle convinced Rainboy to lynch Styx, therefore NumBle is the real culprit and Rainboy is basically a villagers. 2. Rainboy was the one who convinced Numble to lynch Styx and the other way around. 3. NumBle and Rainboy are both mafia and Rainboy made a mistake by revealing this info about NumBle. 4. Similar to scenario 3, but instead of it being a mistake it was intended for psychological manipulation (very unlikely though because its too risky).

Here's a 5th scenario. Both me and Rain didn't feel safe about that lynch. Now I'll tell you to go back and read every single power and role than maybe, if you manage to put the pieces together you'll see why we pulled that off.

I would like to know who contacted Lawliet and katCrusader regarding this Styx vote, was it Rainboy or Numble?
I did contact Lawliet and Rain contacted Xen. Lawliet was a bitch to convince but I explained teh situation and he agreed on. He got no fault on trusting us. But hey. You folk are the "super massive" players from Werewolf. So let's see how this goes



Lawliet's reason to lynch Styx:
Quote:
[Vote Styx]
SAVE THE PANDAS..
1. I really don't think panda is a mafia.. the reason is explained in my previous post and in Rain's post.
2. Pressure Styx to get him to talk.

As for his reason 1, he refers to this post:
Spoiler: show
"noobish" is not a reason... and I really doubt he's a mafia at this point.. because if he is then his teammates would've told him what to do to get out of this situation. your other reason was being afk.. I believe ARSENIC and styx have contributed nothing so far.. could you explain why it has to be panda. The guy got a cute avatar.. leave em alone...

As we can see, Lawliet was completely against the idea of lynching Panda, he is telling us that Panda's teammates would have helped him out- totally contradicting himself by defending Panda for being too 'cute'.

As for reason number 2, he mentioned that he wanted to apply pressure on Styx to get him to 'talk'. However, he's completely ignoring the fact that this reply was made at 2:29 AM, just around 1 hour before round end. Bad mistake there Lawliet.

As for Lawliet's vote against Kontra, it seems that he's completely ignoring the fact that Styx is actually a villager and instead, moving onto someone else (who doesn't seem to be that suspicious) rather than accusing those who convinced him to lynch Styx (based on the steam logs) which is what Lawliet would normally do based on previous gameplays.

As for katCrusader's reason to lynch Styx- I found nothing about of lynching him rather than protecting Panda. This was the only reason:
katCrusader wrote:
I concur; Pandas are too cute to lynch <3

Can't say much other than the fact that she (or he ;) ) was the only one to vote no lynch at the beginning. Typical mafia behaviour tbh.

Note that Panda did not defend himself, he asked his (possible) mafia teammates to help him out. In this case, we see that katCrusader and Lawliet were the first ones to help him out.

There might be 1 villager between those 4 which imo would be Rainboy, however, this is based on nothing. Otherwise, they could all be Mafia, just different teams. My vote stands between NumBle and Lawliet.
[vote Lawliet]


Out of the lastest posts this one seemed the more relevant to answer. Because I'll be honest. The amount of illogical posts lately has been way too high. But at least you're all trying to pull a bit of braincells. Not the good ones but some.

Now that I've got that outta way, I'd like to also point out that Ultor hasn't dropped mi bumholio. I mean, really what the fuck are you trying to proof with those shitty arguments? Seriously it's getting really annoying to the point that i'm about 5 meters away of saying "fuck this" and afk-ing the rest of the game. But I won't do that out of respect for some players and the hosts themselves. But fuck my life this is frustrating.


How did you said it "Take it nice or i beat the crap out of you" :D

It is still all just a game and every one has his own strategy and thoughts what makes it harder and more interesting in my opinion...or not?

If we all would follow the same strategy this game would be boring as fuck and all would get read very easy i think.

If one think he is mister super clever just let him go ahead and let him post as much he can...im pretty sure he will confuse himself much enough then allone. :mrgreen:

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#241 (ISO #14)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
WaywardVole wrote:
I'll admit it is a little strange that katCrusader and Lawliet are seemingly voting together, but I have a hard time believing they would be that stupidly obvious with their plays. Say they are mafia, what would be the benefit of voting in a block R1 and R2? They'd be immediately killed by either the other mafia team or the village - it's far too risky.

That said, I'm unsure of whom to vote for. On one hand, both of them have the potential to be mafia in one form or another. But both Numble and Rain claimed to have talked to Lawliet and katCrusader respectively for the R1 vote - I don't know why they picked them specifically, but it leans away from the two of them masterminding a vote.

I'm around tonight so I'll drop in later to see if anything else comes up and make my vote.


Yayy he is allive :D

[vote no lynch] for now.
Make my vote later too if i read all (again).

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#242 (ISO #15)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
Wait no, lets try that

[vote Maki]

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#276 (ISO #16)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
katCrusader wrote:
Sweedy's still alive for fuck's sake


May I ask you how that is possible? Only for my understanding :shock:

@Emz,SiX,Ultor:

I think after i saw your posts it could be possible that more Vixen exist, that one Vixen roleblocked you all is very unlikely for me and my thoughts.

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#278 (ISO #17)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
Emziek wrote:
!!!*_Uncle-Leo_*!!! wrote:
katCrusader wrote:
Sweedy's still alive for fuck's sake


May I ask you how that is possible? Only for my understanding :shock:

@Emz,SiX,Ultor:

I think after i saw your posts it could be possible that more Vixen exist, that one Vixen roleblocked you all is very unlikely for me and my thoughts.

Yeah no shit

Vixen is possibly the most overpowered role I have ever seen.


I think so too and i'm pretty sure every town took one Vixen so that makes = 3

Edit: I realized only mafia can take a Vixen so it would be = 2 what is more possible than only 1 i think.

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#281 (ISO #18)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
katCrusader wrote:
!!!*_Uncle-Leo_*!!! wrote:
katCrusader wrote:
Sweedy's still alive for fuck's sake

May I ask you how that is possible? Only for my understanding :shock:

I did a derp xD


Oh okay and i didn't realized it :facepalm:

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#316 (ISO #19)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
Ultor wrote:
My recent chat with Leo is very interesting:
Spoiler: show
Ultor: yo
Ultor: i see u looking at topic :)
strande65: morning
strande65: yes i did
strande65: to be honest was to lazy to read all again
strande65: but that you can be the cop sounds plausible for me
strande65: the sad thing is i cant help that much
strande65: and i would follow you
strande65: but there is one prob
strande65: im a soothsayer and my votes doesnt help that much
strande65: i could vote on you to give you a -1
strande65: but thats dumb too i think
strande65: i would get seen as mafia then i think
strande65: bcs no one know that im soothsayer expect you
Ultor: I want u to publically claim to be a soothsayer now then
Ultor: just like what Emizek did
strande65: brb looking for a coffee
Ultor: ok
strande65: back
Ultor: wb
Ultor: so listen
Ultor: what i want u to do
strande65: lol thx
Ultor: claim to be a soothsayer
Ultor: on topic
strande65: nah Ultor i wont make it public
Ultor: no you should
strande65: i share an other opinion than you on that
Ultor: why wont you make it public?
strande65: the mafias already know to much villagers who claimed their power or role
Ultor: Do u know what a soothsayer does?
Ultor: Even if u die, you can still vote
Ultor: and talk to alive people
Ultor: so dying is not a problem for soothsayers
Ultor: zzz
Ultor: hello?
strande65: sry the how is it called door ringbell?
strande65: the door bell ringed
Ultor: oh ok
Ultor: so
strande65: and i had a stupid talk with jehovas ahaha
strande65: so what different would it make to still hide as a villager
strande65: what you can do is
strande65: look at my votes
Ultor: listen man
strande65: i didn't voted once at the most votes
Ultor: that doesnt matter
Ultor: all i want u to do now
strande65: do not take the vote under control
Ultor: is to claim
Ultor: Remember dying doesnt mean u cant vote or talk to alive people
Ultor: why are u refusing to do so?
strande65: but that would mean -1 villager
strande65: and we are alread less people
strande65: you just give them the choice which easy targets the mafias wanna pick
Ultor: that doesnt matter, there are still 2 teams
Ultor: and u will still be able to vote when u are dead
Ultor: so u will still help village
strande65: yes but my vote is -1
Ultor: yeah
strande65: and emziek too
Ultor: so if mafia vote to lynch a villager
Ultor: you can use that -1
Ultor: for the village
Ultor: Even if u are dead
Ultor: why do u think emziek claimed?
strande65: you do know that thei have powers?
Ultor: if we know all 3 soothsayers, that would be good
Ultor: what
strande65: so that they can shot and shoot
Ultor: they only have 2 nightkills and maybe 1 hitman
Ultor: that doesnt matter leo
strande65: they dont even need to focus on the vote
strande65: if the know all villagers Ultor they can easy destroy us by shots im sure
strande65: give me time to think about it okay?
Ultor: no leo, you have to do it now if u want me to trust you
strande65: but i do not share your opinion at this place
Ultor: if not, then i will have to use those steam logs
Ultor: on the topic myself
strande65: if you are clever you look on my posts and on my votes
strande65: if you feel you have to claim this public without my permission do it
strande65: you are to stubborn for me that you want to control all by your own
strande65: i have my thoughts why i dont follow you blind
strande65: and if you wanna use it as "he lies" go ahead Ultor do it
strande65: i claimed you my role what you want more

Few points to notice here:

1. Leo claims to be a soothsayer.
2. He refused to claim publicly, even though it would be beneficial for the village, allowing us to gain some control over the flow of votes.
3. He has no idea of what the role does apart from -1.
4. He takes a lot of time to respond to certain questions, with some of them being the reason of making a coffee (took him around 4 mins to make it) and doorbell (took around 5 mins).
5. Tries to delay his response by saying "I will see when I read topic later" - do note that he was looking at this topic for a long time. This happened yesterday aswell.

Having said that, I believe that Leo belongs to Team 2.


Dunno where to start but lets try it.

1st of all Ultor honestly i never saw one guy like you who think he can lead the world in a better place. I mean by that if all not follow you and your thoughts then they betray you and in this case = Mafia

1) - 3) I know you now enough and i knew this would happen...i told you in Steam too i wanna play my game as i want and not that all is controlled by you. I thats me Leo have my own thoughts and strategy and if you share them or not i don't fucking care. I start understanding Numble a bit why he is getting so mad on you.

I told you too give me time before i claim what i claimed to you in public. And yes look at that "I lied" but you and your fucking stubbornness is just annoying. I told you I don't give you the permission to make our steamchat public for my own reasons, maybe for the fact that i still lied to you also if you are "maybe" the proven Cop but hey "Mr.Ultor i fuck you all" don't care.
I told you i won't get seen as a villager if i claim my role public and maybe someone see the connection between us. Because i do still think that mafia controll that game for which team they play doesn't matter for me.

4) Really Ultor are you fucking kidding me? Yes i did looking for a coffee, but sry i forgot to tell you that this game is not only what i do if you are on ingame here or at steam...Humans do a lot of things like going for a pee pee and wash their hands after it, talking with his father between all, answering on WhatsApp, needs to talk to stubborn guys like you if the doorbell rings and some Jehovas guys try to get you in their clan to lead you too...wait wouldn't that be a great Job for you?
Im pretty sure the times you accused me i took for my coffee and discussing with the friends in front of my door aren't right and even if they would be like that im sry that i didn't mentioned you that i did many more in that time like a human do.

5) Yes Ultor you are right *congratz* you can see me often here on if i don't close that tab or go everytime out and just simply open more tabs for what i thank the Inventor of it. So i can many times stay on here, watch at YouTube, be on at FB, and many more. Oh and wait pls before you accuse me for other things i often go out too if i feel i have to much tabs or windows open what would maybe lag my old pc.

Another thing Ultor if "I"...thats me yes Leo...no no not Ultor...think it is good do publicy things i will do it AND i don't fucking care what you think would be the best and that you are maybe the proven Cop. Oh yes it's dumb or stupid because you think that, sry forgot that but you know what "i don't fucking care" xD


One last thing this i took out of game i played before:
#553 Beitrag Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3] Isolate
[Dusk]
!!!*-Leo-*!!! was lynched!
!!!*-Leo-*!!! died!
[Kill !!!*-Leo-*!!!, lynched]
!!!*-Leo-*!!! was the Officer!

You know what, I claimed to be the Officer in this game and no one else did it and sure there was a scenario that the most voted for a real reason on me...but heyyy look on it what i've been in this game...oh yes true i was the officer = villager and i got lynched...maybe just maybe i have my own thoughts to not publicy all like you do it with claiming to be the Cop what i see as a really dumb move too. Just if you try to talk again with me on steam you are free to believe in all what you think and you can give me good advices what i could do, but pls stop accusing me for ridiculous things like your coffe time was more than 4 minutes your masturbating took you more than 10minutes or whatsoever and also things like you talked with Numble for which i told you i can show you proofs that i never said that and you finally did stop accusing me for that if i told you i have our convo on screenies. As you can see you are not right with all and you confuse yourself to much or to often with all your thoughts too.

After all i put my vote on the one i think is the best choice to vote on and it feels so good if i can do it if i want it and not my Daddy or Ultor the leader. And i hope you do understand all what i typed, i know my english sucks but i'll believe in you you are so smart.

[vote Numble]

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#331 (ISO #20)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
Ultor wrote:
Based on the fact that NumBle isn't even trying to prevent being lynched, I think it's much safer for the village to lynch Leo. This is because there is a very high chance of NumBle having a Politician base power which effectively makes this lynch useless.

As we already know, there are only 3 soothsayers. Panda, a dead soothsayer who is likely to be aligned with the villager as he hasn't made any use of his votes yet- if he was a mafia his mafia team would have used this by now. Emziek has already claimed to be a soothsayer. Leo revealed it to me on steam. However, I received an extra soothsayer claim from someone else.

That makes it 4 soothsayers. Now based on the logs I've posted and Leo's vote for NumBle I've came to the conclusion that Leo is lying about his base power and therefore is aligned with the Mafia (Team 2). Also, checking Leo's voting history, it is pretty much clear that he has no Politician- his base power is most likely to be Insight.

This is why I recommend lynching Leo instead of NumBle, the village shouldn't waste another lynch like that.

[vote !!!*_Uncle-Leo_*!!!]


Do you read sometimes what others type? Or you read only what you wanna see?

Leo wrote:
I told you too give me time before i claim what i claimed to you in public. And yes look at that "I lied" but you and your fucking stubbornness is just annoying. I told you I don't give you the permission to make our steamchat public for my own reasons, maybe for the fact that i still lied to you also if you are "maybe" the proven Cop but hey "Mr.Ultor i fuck you all" don't care.
I told you i won't get seen as a villager if i claim my role public and maybe someone see the connection between us. Because i do still think that mafia controll that game for which team they play doesn't matter for me.


You remember in the Steamchat where we talked about the Insight? I told you who knows it xD?
Guess what i am...an Insight right...maybe after you claimed to be the Cop i tried to hold this Option open for us that we still can peek others if you get shot and die. But nvm.

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#342 (ISO #21)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
HATER wrote:
!!!*_Uncle-Leo_*!!! wrote:

4) Really Ultor are you fucking kidding me? Yes i did looking for a coffee, but sry i forgot to tell you that this game is not only what i do if you are on ingame here or at steam...Humans do a lot of things like going for a pee pee and wash their hands after it, talking with his father between all, answering on WhatsApp, needs to talk to stubborn guys like you if the doorbell rings and some Jehovas guys try to get you in their clan to lead you too...wait wouldn't that be a great Job for you?


This has to be one of my favorite quotes in this entire thread, lmfao


:lol:

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#430 (ISO #22)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
I'm really sorry for Mafia Team1 i do know that i ruined all and that i didn't gave us a chance to win this game.
I had a lot of private issues and couldn't use my thinking or thoughts in the right way (the kid of my girlfriend went sick and other stuff happend for what i thought 1 time i need to ask HATER to exchange me with an other player) but i do like those games and didn't want to do it for the Team. I also don't wanna use excuses but it is how it is. And on a small point i was disappointed that i didn't got any respond on steam and per pm at forum from KatCrusader or Rainbow. So i felt too a bit that i play in a Team allone with 3 mates. Well as said i blame me for it that we lost and hope for all others if i participate in a new game too that they are not in my team to have a chance to get the victory :mrgreen:

Thanks HATER for hosting this game and i had a lot of fun. And Ultor know me better that my post towards him are not personally meant, we still talk/talked on steam or play/played games together :D
Congratz to the Mafia Team2 and well played all. All smart as fuck ;)

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