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#15 (ISO #1)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
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#54 (ISO #2)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
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Vanillager three times in a row fml.


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#123 (ISO #3)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
:rage: Mage for your big taco picture. I could barely find the quote button (zooming out to the maximum).

Rainboy wrote:
Mage: When GERTY recoloring has a higher character count than the rest of the thread, it's time to stop.

[vote SiX]


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SweedyGonzales wrote:
Panda is being very quiet.
WAKE UP!
[color=#FF0000][color=#FF0000][Vote Panda] (unknown target) (unknown target)[/color] (unknown target)[/color]


Lets bully the newcomers!
[Vote Panda]

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#184 (ISO #4)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
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12:49 AM - Kaebbel: Its curious how the styx wagoon took off only 2 hours before the round end
12:49 AM - Kaebbel: and that Sweedy, first person to vote panda was shot


Shooting the first person to vote you (mafia), is rarely a thing in neonDragon WW. It's calling unattracted attention to you, as in: "Oh? Someone voted you? Explain why he's dead now." - Killing such a person would be ideal for the Mafia, but precisely because it's ideal, they rarely do it. With 4 members in the Mafia team, and looking at the current player list, I'd assume the players are experienced enough not to risk something like this. Unless this, of course, isn't reversed psychology to make me think this way. But I doubt it. I'm not denying Panda is Mafia. He could very well be. But he's not of the Mafia team who killed Sweedygonzales.

A thought that crossed my mind is that you, Emziek, may be on Mafia team X (with Panda either being Town or Mafia Y) and decided to shoot Sweedygonzales to frame Panda.

[Vote Emziek]

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#186 (ISO #5)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
Emziek wrote:
SiX wrote:
shoot Sweedygonzales to frame Panda.

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12:49 AM - Kaebbel: and that Sweedy, first person to vote panda was shot

My exact thought when I wrote this was that Panda was being setup.


It sounded more like you subtly tried to create a bandwagon.

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#188 (ISO #6)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
Emziek wrote:
You've proven once again that you completely misread the intentions of my posts. Just like last game.


And you have proven once again that you create way too ambiguous posts.

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#192 (ISO #7)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
K0ntRa wrote:
About the last paragraph, could be true, maybe, but what makes U so sure emziek is mafia and not some other player who voted for Styx?


From experience I can tell that when someone's "framed", the culprit is often the first person to point it (the lead) out so that everybody else will also notice it. Ideally they ought to be waiting for someone else, an innocent person to notice it. But if nobody is noticing it, they themselves will be forced out of their comfort zone to point that one lead out. I've seen this so many times that I've made it a rule of thumb. Now, bear in mind that Emziek didn't go as far as to say this publicly. It was more of a subtle message meant only to be read by Rainboy, his conversation partner. The rest of us wouldn't have known of this, had he not revealed the chat logs.

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#193 (ISO #8)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
Emziek wrote:
SiX wrote:
Emziek wrote:
You've proven once again that you completely misread the intentions of my posts. Just like last game.


And you have proven once again that you create way too ambiguous posts.

You're nitpicking details out of a quote taken out of context and you're also ignoring the later developments of the chat. I'm not being ambiguous, you're just being ignorant.


Quote:
12:49 AM - Kaebbel: Its curious how the styx wagoon took off only 2 hours before the round end
12:49 AM - Kaebbel: and that Sweedy, first person to vote panda was shot

12:50 AM - Rainboy: I tried to start it earlier, but I was at church.
12:50 AM - Rainboy: And it took Xen and Lawliet a bloody hour to write their posts.
12:50 AM - Rainboy: Which made it tighter than I really wanted.
12:50 AM - Rainboy: Not enough time for people to respond.
12:51 AM - Kaebbel: wut
12:51 AM - Kaebbel: You organized it?
12:51 AM - Rainboy: Numble and I did, yeah.
12:51 AM - Rainboy: I was uneasy with the panda lynch, for the reasons I stated.


What later development of the chat? Only the first 2 sentences has something of value in this case. What Rainboy says is that he organized the lynch on Styx (correct me if I'm wrong). It has nothing to do with Sweedy being shot for voting Panda. All Rainboy says is that he didn't feel comfortable lynching Panda.

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#218 (ISO #9)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
What K0ntRa says makes sense. I'm not sure why people are trying to find faults with his reasons for voting Panda.
Last game, as K0ntRa himself stated, there were 75% Town members and 25% Mafia members. In such a situation, the likelihood of (random) lynching a town member is highly increased. So if our usual reasoning for random lynching people is to get information, our reasons this game, with 53% being town and 47% being mafia, is as always to get information but also to gamble on lynching a Mafia. While we gamble on lynching a Mafia before as well, the odds of a Mafia actually being hung is increased in this game.

And lets face it. Most of the afks players are generally town members. Yes, there are a few exceptions. But c'mon, everyone who has hosted a WW game (or played enough) can witness about the amount of town members being modkilled. As such, I can full well understand why K0ntRa (in the last game) did not want to lynch the AFK ones. And even if they were lynched, not a lot of information would be given to the town. Besides, they would just get modkilled anyway if they remain afk, so no point in wasting a precious lynch on them.

In this game, however, K0ntRa waged between lynching an unknown player (first timer here) whose presence in the game would be unknown, and between me (Six) who's known for being somewhat active to very active in every game. Granted, I've to admit that I personally didn't want to lynch Panda. Just voted him for the luls and when I returned, the round had already ended, before I got a chance to change it to anyone else. Well, that aside, the vote by the time was between me and Panda, and K0ntRa choosing to vote Panda in this case is thus understandable. It's nothing to suspect him for.

On the other hand, there's one thing about you, K0ntRa, which makes me suspicious.

K0ntRa wrote:
K0ntRa wrote:
Voting out AFKs is a waste of lynch IMO. Plus, it's extremely risky (25% - 75%). I don't think I will vote for an AFK guy... ever.

This game the chances are 47%, not 25% which is twice more.

Also in that game from which you quoted what I said people wanted to lynch an AFK guy just because of being AFK IIRC, there wasn't a bandwagon on anyone else, this game it's different - either AFK or not AFK. I don't see why this is suspicious to some.

I admit, it's an interesting idea you came up with, but if I was you, I would've waited to see if SiX will flip inno or mafia.


K0ntRa wrote:
Quote:
Ok, let me get this straight: In a previous game, a majority of people were voting for an afk guy. Their reasoning was, given zero information, lynch the afks. You stood up for the afks. This game, a majority of people were voting for an afk guy. You are supporting this, as given zero information you should lynch the afks.


I still don't think that everybody understands me. Last game was different. Last game people were voting ONLY for an afk guy, simply because he's afk. This game Panda (afk) and SiX (active) were tied for lynch. I cannot understand how you people don't understand this. Jeez. Also, even if I hadn't voted for Panda, and the bw on Styx didn't happen Panda would be lynched anyway.
We should be focusing on the bw on Styx, instead of supporting some far-fetched theories. At least wait until SiX dies and his alignment is revealed.


I assume you are "suspicious" (in Lawliet's eyes?) for defending me by voting Panda? As such, you suggested Lawliet to wait before posting to first see what I flip, before suspecting you? Is that why you want my alignment to be revealed before you are lynched, to prove we are not Mafia buddies working together? It kind of sounds like that to me. As in, you are town, I die and flip town, then you can claim "We are not mafia buds". But lets say I flip Mafia, then what happens? "Wooops my bad?" - and you'll be lynched as a town member. This reply makes the most sense if what you say is: "I am Mafia. Wait until Six dies, and flips town (unless Six is of the other mafia team, in which I, K0ntRa, am fucked. That proves we did not work together." You see, from Lawliet's perspective, rather than waiting to see what I flip, he could also choose to kill YOU, and based on your flip, he'll decide what to do with me. I think you are rather suspicious right now. But I'm still at school, so I will likely not read the topic for the nest 3 hours or so. So I'll reply once I'm back, thinking about whether or not to vote you.

Edit: I forgot to mention that I also suspect Panda for his lack of activity. His only post, which was about 1½-2h after I voted him, was when he decided to counter-vote me. Ever since, his activity has been extremely low. This could be a coincidence. But the case could also be that one of his friends (if anyone knows him) told him he was voted, which made him visit the forums to reply to my post. That person who knows Panda could be a Mafia, if Panda, too, is a Mafia, but if Panda is a town member, likelihood is that his friend, too, is a town member. So if anyone knows who Panda is acquainted with, immediate suspicion on that person. But this is just a brainfart said in the open.

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#228 (ISO #10)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
[Vote K0ntRa] (unknown target)

With this post I'm off for the rest of the round.

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#263 (ISO #11)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
Emziek wrote:
I was roleblocked this round by a Vixen, although the roleblock itself didn't affect me in any way. Good job not having peeked me yet though and wasting a roleblock+frame on a normal villager.

Ultor wrote:
As for the villagers, please do get in touch with me (especially any vote savants). If I'm not a confirmed villager to you by now then you're pretty much stupid. Don't let the mafia manipulate you and win this game, we still got a chance here.

lmao


I was also roleblocked, so that makes it 2 Vixens.

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#323 (ISO #12)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
!!!*_Uncle-Leo_*!!! wrote:
-Snap-

After all i put my vote on the one i think is the best choice to vote on and it feels so good if i can do it if i want it and not my Daddy or Ultor the leader. And i hope you do understand all what i typed, i know my english sucks but i'll believe in you you are so smart.

[vote Numble]


Ultor wrote:
Wait so you're voting NumBle to reduce the amount of votes he has? Remember? You are a soothsayer!


The mafia be like:
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On a more serious note, I think we can be safe to assume that both Leo and Numble are Mafia. If Numble is on Mafia 2, a guess of mine is that Leo is on Mafia 1. Rainboy is also likely on team 1 while Lawliet is on team 2.

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#371 (ISO #13)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
[Vote waywardvole]

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#392 (ISO #14)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
[vote six]

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#402 (ISO #15)  Re: Assassins XII: Power Up!
I wonder; if the round wasn't extended, could we have perhaps have managed to lynch Wayward, who didn't vote me? :/

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