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#23 (ISO #1)  Re: Mafia XXXI: L'Hôtel de la Mort
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#31 (ISO #2)  Re: [R0] Mafia XXXI: L'Hôtel de la Mort
Can the Hotel Manager please make sure that I have a full English breakfast delivered by room service @ 9am sharp. Much obliged.

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#50 (ISO #3)  Re: [R0] Mafia XXXI: L'Hôtel de la Mort
Ish wrote:
Konijn wrote:
Can the Hotel Manager please make sure that I have a full English breakfast delivered by room service @ 9am sharp. Much obliged.


Not the full English breakfast that you were expecting lol


Yeah quite :|. Not liking this new trend >_>

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#99 (ISO #4)  Re: [R1 ends 17 July, 23:59 EST] Mafia XXXI: L'Hôtel de la Mort
Bad start :|

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[log Emziek, survived shot]


Was this a doc save or what? I don't see any other mechanism to how he would survive, but only quickly glanced over roles - off to bed.

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#173 (ISO #5)  Re: [R2 ends 19 July, 23:59 EST] Mafia XXXI: L'Hôtel de la Mort
Reading Emziek's claim, his subsequent posts where he backs up his position and defends himself against SiX, it seems to me to be the best decision right now to [vote Ish]

I'm a little reluctant to trust you though due to your excellent play as Mafia last game, if you turn out to be Mafia again this time I think you're gonna end up getting another MVP award >_>

Edit: P.S. Server running gerty was rebooted, I've restarted him now.

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#206 (ISO #6)  Re: [R3 ends 21 July, 23:59 EST] Mafia XXXI: L'Hôtel de la Mort
Check the last couple of games, where I have been village and equally as afk/not really posting. Just kinda busy to read through walls of text to come up with reads.

I have some ideas for who are likely mafia suspects based on the previous round but need some time to properly think about thinks and formulate a comprehensive reply. Will update later, playing LoL atm.

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#217 (ISO #7)  Re: [R3 ends 21 July, 23:59 EST] Mafia XXXI: L'Hôtel de la Mort
This is based mainly on the posts and votes made during R2 and the outcome of that round.

POOOOO:
- Pro village
-- Said he thought SiX was villager

- Anti-village
-- Voted for no lynch after Emziek's claim
-- Said FoS on Leo/HATER after Emziek's claim
-- Voted Ultor after Emziek's claim despite earlier that round saying he concluded he was village
-- Voted Ish last

Ultor:
- Pro village
-- Seems to think at start of the game I have a high chance of being village due to being "stabbed by both parties" - a dangerous thing for mafia to instill village trust in a villager perhaps?
-- Quite active, gives reads in thread for each player, that sort of thing is difficult to fake as you need to justify each point
--

- Anti-village
-- States that it is "crystal clear" that Emziek is mafia, despite it looking almost certian right now that Emziek is the village PR he claimed
-- States he has definite proof of Emziek being mafia but does not post
-- Asks for a village PR to contact him with nothing to justify his plea
-- Tries to steer the lynch away from the mafia onto Leo
-- Knew that SiX was HM. SiX was stabbed was stabbed that round

Lien:
- Anti-village
-- Has not given any insight/opinions on the game
-- Was the last to vote for Ish

HATER:
-- hater walls

Pr0Gr4mm4:
-- Inactive 2 rounds | Though this is does kind of fit his MO for the past few games

Leo:
- Pro village
-- Was first to follow Emziek's vote
-- Seems to be making generally pro village posts but tbh I'm so tired and I can't find the energy to sift through everyone's posts any more

Panda:
- Anti-village
-- has not many any game related posts or votes since the game started... isolation.php?tid=26287&pid=4934

Emziek:
- Pro-village
-- Claimed Journalist, got a mafia killed, seems legit


Conclusion:

It's a difficult decision between POOOOO and Ultor. POOOOO's contradictions though lead me more to believe he is slightly more likely that Ultor to be Mafia

[vote POOOOO]

However there are 4 mafia roles and 1 SK, so I will list in the order of suspicion my guesses for the rest:

Panda - Due to the fact that he is AFK, I suspect he may be trying to lay low
Lien~ - Also seems to trying to lay low, I don't buy the busy/inactive/uninterested excuse

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#219 (ISO #8)  Re: [R3 ends 21 July, 23:59 EST] Mafia XXXI: L'Hôtel de la Mort
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
Konijn wrote:
This is based mainly on the posts and votes made during R2 and the outcome of that round.

POOOOO:
- Pro village
-- Said he thought SiX was villager

- Anti-village
-- Voted for no lynch after Emziek's claim
-- Said FoS on Leo/HATER after Emziek's claim
-- Voted Ultor after Emziek's claim despite earlier that round saying he concluded he was village
-- Voted Ish last

Ultor:
- Pro village
-- Seems to think at start of the game I have a high chance of being village due to being "stabbed by both parties" - a dangerous thing for mafia to instill village trust in a villager perhaps?
-- Quite active, gives reads in thread for each player, that sort of thing is difficult to fake as you need to justify each point
--

- Anti-village
-- States that it is "crystal clear" that Emziek is mafia, despite it looking almost certian right now that Emziek is the village PR he claimed
-- States he has definite proof of Emziek being mafia but does not post
-- Asks for a village PR to contact him with nothing to justify his plea
-- Tries to steer the lynch away from the mafia onto Leo
-- Knew that SiX was HM. SiX was stabbed was stabbed that round

Lien:
- Anti-village
-- Has not given any insight/opinions on the game
-- Was the last to vote for Ish

HATER:
-- hater walls

Pr0Gr4mm4:
-- Inactive 2 rounds | Though this is does kind of fit his MO for the past few games

Leo:
- Pro village
-- Was first to follow Emziek's vote
-- Seems to be making generally pro village posts but tbh I'm so tired and I can't find the energy to sift through everyone's posts any more

Panda:
- Anti-village
-- has not many any game related posts or votes since the game started... isolation.php?tid=26287&pid=4934

Emziek:
- Pro-village
-- Claimed Journalist, got a mafia killed, seems legit


Conclusion:

It's a difficult decision between POOOOO and Ultor. POOOOO's contradictions though lead me more to believe he is slightly more likely that Ultor to be Mafia

[vote POOOOO]

However there are 4 mafia roles and 1 SK, so I will list in the order of suspicion my guesses for the rest:

Panda - Due to the fact that he is AFK, I suspect he may be trying to lay low
Lien~ - Also seems to trying to lay low, I don't buy the busy/inactive/uninterested excuse


3 Mafia, 5 villagers, 1 SK

I said there are 4 mafia roles, I didn't say there were 4 mafia alive. I also only listed 4 players.

Edit: Just noticed a ton of typos in that post, forgief I've had virtually no sleep in the past 3 days :|

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#223 (ISO #9)  Re: [R3 ends 21 July, 23:59 EST] Mafia XXXI: L'Hôtel de la Mort
@Emziek: Well you wanted my opinions so I gave them, I never said they are accurate, just how I felt based on the previous round's actions.

I didn't read most of Leo's posts because they're extremely lengthy and by the time I had gotten to him I had already spent a good hour or so reading + writing analyses. I skimmed over his posts, hence why I said they seem pro village and added that I didn't read them properly.

I didn't vote in R1 because I was hospitalised...

You say I'm pointing fingers at Ultor when it's not due, can you explain why it's not due? I listed the things that he did which I believe are anti-village and instead of making counter-points to those you simply dismissed it out of hand. Also, why can't Ultor be the SK?

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#232 (ISO #10)  Re: [R3 ends 21 July, 23:59 EST] Mafia XXXI: L'Hôtel de la Mort
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But he is ont the only one out so late. Twice more during the night people sneak through the darkness, only to both be turned away. The Janitor, having spent much of the day planning his next kill, entered the room only to discover he had forgotten this was the room Konijn just died in. Giving his body a stab for good measure, he retreats to his room.


lol.

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#247 (ISO #11)  Re: [R4 ends 23 July, 23:59 EST] Mafia XXXI: L'Hôtel de la Mort
Ultor wrote:
My recent chatlog with Leo:

Spoiler: show
strande65: is that allowed?
Ultor: i think so
Ultor: screenshot is not
strande65: well im not sure im allowed to do it..i will ask him before i do it
Ultor: its allowed
Ultor: but not screenshot
Ultor: I did the same thing for last game
Ultor: i asked six
strande65: okay let me see how i can do it and you should ask that question poo too to see his role
Ultor: six said he doesnt know
Ultor: ask the host
Ultor: what was the most recent thing u said to poo?
strande65: i cant find the role post..i think i delted it...yes im mafia i know...to poo i didn't talked i only called him mafia today in the server and he said nah, so i called him SK then and he didn't said anything more
Ultor: so u admit ur a mafia?
strande65: nah but i know how stubborn you are and if i can't find my evidence for you...what chance i have that you trust me?
Ultor: ok lol this aint gonna help u
Ultor: you didnt delete it, u just dont know how to fake it
strande65: i never would fake anything
strande65: i hold my folder small as i can
strande65: have only the things in it where i told the admins things to back it up


Basically he started begging me to not lynch him. I asked him to give me his role PM. He said he deleted it and some silly reasons like "i hold my folder small as i can".

RIP Leo, mafia scum!

Quoting or screenshotting the role PM is forbidden according to the WW rules, see viewtopic.php?f=178&t=24591 - rule 2, unless explicit permission is given.

Also this is in the OP for SiX's last game:
Quote:
(2) Quoting the host's private messages. You are only allowed to quote A) what I type in this topic and B) What I give permission to quote. In other words, I don't want you to quote my private messages to you, e.g. your role PM. It can be abused to prove a point and if you are found out doing so, you'll be modkilled.


I do not believe he would have given you permission to quote/SS the PM.

Also, I really wish someone would address the issue of screenshotting conversations. Copy-pasting is one thing as text can be easily manipulated and so conversations can be disputed, but screenshots are much harder to fake and nobody would spend the time doing that for this game.

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#293 (ISO #12)  Re: Mafia XXXI: L'Hôtel de la Mort
Emziek wrote:
You've failed to convince me Konijn. It could be your lack of sleep talking but some of your reads seems off. You're pointing fingers Ultor where its not due while you're patting Leo for being Pro-village when you yourself said it you cba reading everyones posts.

2 out of the 4 were mafia xD I didn't realise at the time of my post that Ultor was pretty much confirmed villager, my next best guess would have been pr0gr4mm4 so that would have been 3/4 lul

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