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#2 (ISO #1)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
[in]
Can't wait for this!

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#52 (ISO #2)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
Mystic wrote:
Normie claim


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#56 (ISO #3)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
NumBle wrote:
K0ntRa wrote:
Mystic wrote:
Normie claim


>game hasn't even started;
>already claiming vanillagers..


SiX wrote:
[start]


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#80 (ISO #4)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
[vote Leo]

I have a gut feeling, and lets be honest, gut is never wrong.

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#85 (ISO #5)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
someone must really hate fag9... i mean ko9
shot in the last game, and game be4 that he was injured, shot (protected) and shot again.

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#88 (ISO #6)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:

I agree on the most of your view to this game.
But hey in my opinion it is not wrong to get us together..what you think happen if 24 Players are quiet?
And the mafia know each other, so they know im just a villager and if they kill me i have nothin to lose.
But sure to go with a vote on me like Kontra did it with the reason "gut feeling" after we had a beef is the best choice !!!

@Kontra
You should take a look at the advice SiX gave:
(3) Gamethrowing. As a Mafia, don't sell your teammates out without a good reason. Reasons such as you don't like them is not a valid reason. The same applies to the town. Don't lynched confirmed people just because you don't like them


Omg look at this mafia behavior! First, discouraging others from voting randomly R1, which is an essential thing needed for the victory of those on my side, villagers. Second, not trusting a gut feeling. WTF????? ALWAYS. TRUST. YOUR. GUT! 3) Gamethrowing has nothing to do with this. It would if both of us were mafia.
hehe xd topkek ayylmao

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#90 (ISO #7)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
Shadi wrote:
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
But hey in my opinion it is not wrong to get us together..

How do you trust anyone this early? How do you get together with anyone this early?

ez, he's maf, knows other maf folks...
Shadi wrote:
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
But sure to go with a vote on me like Kontra did it with the reason "gut feeling" after we had a beef is the best choice !!!

Beef? Elaborate.
[/quote]

he blocked me on steam haha
and that has absolutely nothing to do with this game since i am a hardworking town member who has his best interests in ma... town winning and those like Leo losing, and puts away his personal feelings away for the better future of us, poor innocents :(
hihihihi

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#92 (ISO #8)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
Shadi wrote:
again with the self-proclaimed town claim r1...

you seem pretty certain of Leo being mafia, despite the fact that I metadove him and he seems to try to emphasise on useless claims despite his alignment like other games, what do you think of that?


big words for me
metadove? emphasise? 's that even english

my vote on him was pretty much random. i'll pm you smt on steam to tell you my plans of voting further on in this round.

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#97 (ISO #9)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
SweedyGonzales wrote:
K0ntRa's 'gut feeling' was pretty mad last game :P
I stand with K0ntRa
[Vote !!!*-Leo-*!!!]


btw, last game it wasnt really a gut feeling, you were quite obvious to me. sadly, not to anyone else. just me and the host lol

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#98 (ISO #10)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
Shadi wrote:
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
But hey in my opinion it is not wrong to get us together..

How do you trust anyone this early? How do you get together with anyone this early?
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
what you think happen if 24 Players are quiet?
I don't condone silence in this game, my playstyle should tell you I am actively working on that issue.
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
But sure to go with a vote on me like Kontra did it with the reason "gut feeling" after we had a beef is the best choice !!!

Beef? Elaborate.


I do not say i trust anyone "now" and no one can be sure im a mafia man or a villager. But i play the game villager or mafia doesn´t matter. If i am a mafia guy maybe i can convince some people to trust me as a "villager"
If i am a villager maybe i can convince some players as a "villager" to get us known like the mafia team do it.
Well atleast im just active in the game and dont sit in my rocking chair and vote one after an other, without a reasonable basis.


Explanation:

In my opinion Kontra provoked to much regulars ingame or in the forum (G0mik, Godlike)...so long that they lose their temper and if they start getting mad and rage he take proofs or evidences to get them banned. He did it with me last times too and missed the Point where it wasn´t funny anymore. So he insultet me and i did it too then and i decided to delete him on STEAM and we both decided that it is better that we go different ways. I don´t like smart alecks or humans that mess others on their english skills...most of all should know that doesn´t say anything about a person.

Well that is nothin for the game here but since you asked me to Elaborate i did it now ;)
So thats why i think now on his opinion "gut feeling" is not really a reason to vote on a mate in this game. Same goes for POOO he act suspicious for me that he voted on me with no reason...just a vote more not from him...and i tried to talk with him on steam but he didn´t respond what made it more suspicious for me. But i don´t know what role he have.

OK enough typed :D


Green: E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E would claim villager, if asked to do so. Town members have no reason to lie, while mafia will want to lie and therefore they will claim villager. If people were asked to claim their role (not just alignment), village PRs would be in trouble. Claiming doesn't mean much.
Me provoking you on steam has very little to do with this game.
My lynch is not final yet, I might - and might not - change it later today or tomorrow.

PS: You might wanna check the report section.

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#103 (ISO #11)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
playing TTT now. will do it later

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#104 (ISO #12)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
I'd like to hear more from WaywardVole and SiX. They are always reading this thread but haven't posted anything. Thats how WV won in the last game.

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#106 (ISO #13)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
Epic fail XDDDD

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#112 (ISO #14)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
Shadi wrote:
K0ntRa wrote:
Shadi wrote:
again with the self-proclaimed town claim r1...

you seem pretty certain of Leo being mafia, despite the fact that I metadove him and he seems to try to emphasise on useless claims despite his alignment like other games, what do you think of that?


big words for me
metadove? emphasise? 's that even english

my vote on him was pretty much random. i'll pm you smt on steam to tell you my plans of voting further on in this round.


Meta = how a player usually is, to metadive is to dive into his meta and check his general way of behaving

emphasise = underline something so this is emphasised on

He has changed his behavior a lot since his first game, where it was obvious that he is a wolf. This is the 4th game that he has played, and he has changed his behavior a lot. It's a far fetched theory to metadive.


!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
I do not say i trust anyone "now" and no one can be sure im a mafia man or a villager. But i play the game villager or mafia doesn´t matter. If i am a mafia guy maybe i can convince some people to trust me as a "villager"
If i am a villager maybe i can convince some players as a "villager" to get us known like the mafia team do it.
Well atleast im just active in the game and dont sit in my rocking chair and vote one after an other, without a reasonable basis.


Don't do that, make people actively post and be inquiring, don't make relations now.


!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
In my opinion Kontra provoked to much regulars ingame or in the forum (G0mik, Godlike)...so long that they lose their temper and if they start getting mad and rage he take proofs or evidences to get them banned. He did it with me last times too and missed the Point where it wasn´t funny anymore. So he insultet me and i did it too then and i decided to delete him on STEAM and we both decided that it is better that we go different ways. I don´t like smart alecks or humans that mess others on their english skills...most of all should know that doesn´t say anything about a person.
not too relevant to mafia? Even if it's his personality here it doesn't mean it's his mafia playstyle.

!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
Well that is nothin for the game here but since you asked me to Elaborate i did it now ;)
So thats why i think now on his opinion "gut feeling" is not really a reason to vote on a mate in this game. Same goes for POOO he act suspicious for me that he voted on me with no reason...just a vote more not from him...and i tried to talk with him on steam but he didn´t respond what made it more suspicious for me. But i don´t know what role he have.

OK enough typed :D


Ye POOO seems a bit dodgy, but mby it was RVS? Elaborate POOO?

Obv random vote. Also this is the 1st game he played.

SweedyGonzales wrote:
K0ntRa's 'gut feeling' was pretty mad last game :P
I stand with K0ntRa
[Vote !!!*-Leo-*!!!]


Sweedy, that reason to sweep is REALLY forced and off. At least elaborate on how you agree to his "gut feeling"

Possible relation between these two, through Steam or team.

Haven't talked to this guy in this game, but, if you wanna know, I have talked to him before in the last game. Also, GUT IS ALWAYS RIGHT


!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
Randomly ahahha sure so that i took 2 votes now and that you risk to get a villager lynched..gg wp

BTW i didn´t blocked you, i deleted you for the fact that i dont like humans that provoke others for their own fun.

And i think you started a BW now with your vote, but go ahead so i have a point to blame you then for it if it comes out that i was a villager. The reason you gave was still not really understandable. LOL


R1 lynches are mainly villager lynches and provide a shitton of info to the town from the flip, relations, behaviorial patterns, voting patterns alone are a lot.

Agreed. We learned quite a bit about Leo from this.



!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
@Kontra i claimed to be a villager, if you think i would do it as a mafia guy, just think it. On my opinion i would be more quiet to not show im one of the mafias. As a villager who am i, i have nothin to lose only more fun to see how guys vote on a player that is active in game and don´t be quiet just for the reason to survive to the next round. My mention been to let the game start and that we hear and see more from others. We have 24 Players and only like 5,6,7 posted actually somethin. And that i have for that 3 votes direct is funny and sry in my opnion dumb too.
For that same reason mafia needs to stay active as well, to appear less suspicious. Can't use that argument really..

I do however agree that we need to be careful about lynching Leo, need to see who else jumps on and jumps off the wagon and speaks for and against it.

!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
For all other who are new to this game...you should vote on AFK´s before on active players..they are not really being helpfull for the village town and you can wakeup some of them to see what they think or have to say to the game.
So my advice to you all is to don´t jump on a Bandwagon that can lynch one of your mates. What actually will happen !!!


It's a bit early to zone out AFKs.

I don't like voting out AFKs. Because the chances of them being mafia are ~25% (depending on how many mafia players there are, too lazy to calculate). And if we vote others we can get more information, because they will, just like Leo, defend themselves and talk a lot.


Ish wrote:
I say we lynch shadi no one wants a guy that posts too much and uses big words...[vote Shadi], although he's been pressing on people, no one has pressed on him uet.

@Shadi what are your thoughts on Leo, Kontra and the people that voted leo. Who is on your suspects list atm?


No, no, no, no! No nonononononononono. A player that posts too much is exactly what we need. Additionally, voting those who post a lot is a dumb idea. This is a game where you cannot trust anyone, so whoever draws attention to himself becomes suspicious. Shadi hasn't been suspicious at all (still, he is an experienced player who could easily hide his role).

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#114 (ISO #15)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
GodLiiiiiiiike wrote:
Hey it's mayor GodLiiiiiiiike here!

Every villager pm me your role!


You aren't playing in this game.
SiX wrote:
To join, you have to bold your [In]. But it's a little bit questionable since your first post is in this WW event. I've my doubts whether or not you will be active, and therefore I'm afraid I can't accept you, sorry.


PS: If you were playing, nobody would actually claim their roles to you. As far as others know, you might be mafia trying to discover the PRs.

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#118 (ISO #16)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
Shadi wrote:
K0ntRa wrote:
He has changed his behavior a lot since his first game, where it was obvious that he is a wolf. This is the 4th game that he has played, and he has changed his behavior a lot. It's a far fetched theory to metadive.


Actually it's a decent method, you're doing it yourself now. I'm interested, what similarities do you see between his wolf game and his game now?

LOL, I didn't realise that lmao. In the wolf game he was clearly acting like a total noob, got lynched R2. Jumped on a BW too quickly ("for me to help such actions"). My point was that he has improved a lot since then.

K0ntRa wrote:
Obv random vote. Also this is the 1st game he played.

Bit weird to wagon jump on a random RVS vote without saying anything at all though.

I would like to hear more from you, POOOOOO.

K0ntRa wrote:
Haven't talked to this guy in this game, but, if you wanna know, I have talked to him before in the last game. Also, GUT IS ALWAYS RIGHT

I think your gut may be a bit too strong right now xD

but ok you deny relations to Sweedy in this game. Noted.

K0ntRa wrote:
I don't like voting out AFKs. Because the chances of them being mafia are ~25% (depending on how many mafia players there are, too lazy to calculate). And if we vote others we can get more information, because they will, just like Leo, defend themselves and talk a lot.


I actually like this part of your post, while I don't agree because getting rid of people we cannot be certain about is helpful, it at least seems like you're actually being inquiring.


Voting out AFKs is a waste of lynch IMO. Plus, it's extremely risky (25% - 75%). I don't think I will vote for an AFK guy... ever.

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#119 (ISO #17)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
GodLiiiiiiiike wrote:
[code][/code]
K0ntRa wrote:
GodLiiiiiiiike wrote:
Hey it's mayor GodLiiiiiiiike here!

Every villager pm me your role!


You aren't playing in this game.
SiX wrote:
To join, you have to bold your [In]. But it's a little bit questionable since your first post is in this WW event. I've my doubts whether or not you will be active, and therefore I'm afraid I can't accept you, sorry.


PS: If you were playing, nobody would actually claim their roles to you. As far as others know, you might be mafia trying to discover the PRs.


First off all i'm playing, second off all don't reply to me.

Since you're playing i'll go afk until you are lynched.

[VOTE CUNTRA]


You dont want me to reply to you? Something like that can be fatal for the game. This is a game where communication is the key to success. Those who are mafia will not want to communicate.
SiX made a big mistake when he accepted you to play this game. I knew that you'll act like a total douchebag, as you always do. I don't understand why did you apply in the first place, just to fuck around or what?

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#121 (ISO #18)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
GodLiiiiiiiike wrote:
K0ntRa wrote:
GodLiiiiiiiike wrote:
[code][/code]
K0ntRa wrote:
GodLiiiiiiiike wrote:
Hey it's mayor GodLiiiiiiiike here!

Every villager pm me your role!


You aren't playing in this game.
SiX wrote:
To join, you have to bold your [In]. But it's a little bit questionable since your first post is in this WW event. I've my doubts whether or not you will be active, and therefore I'm afraid I can't accept you, sorry.


PS: If you were playing, nobody would actually claim their roles to you. As far as others know, you might be mafia trying to discover the PRs.


First off all i'm playing, second off all don't reply to me.

Since you're playing i'll go afk until you are lynched.

[VOTE CUNTRA]


You dont want me to reply to you? Something like that can be fatal for the game. This is a game where communication is the key to success. Those who are mafia will not want to communicate.
SiX made a big mistake when he accepted you to play this game. I knew that you'll act like a total douchebag, as you always do. I don't understand why did you apply in the first place, just to fuck around or what?


Hippocrit much? You just argued with leo. How can I know you're not a mafia member, trying to act like a townie? Therefore communication with you is pointless. I don't believe your lies, and your random lynching, 1# sign of being a mafia member.
(Oh, and did you enjoy that 48 hour ban) ?


How do you know anybody is not mafia? You can't. By communication you must figure that out, look for leads and analyze the way players vote.
Random lynching is absolutely needed in R1. But as of course you have no idea about that, because you were too lazy to check old, finished games. You disgust me with your provocative comments, this game isn't the place for you, nor is the internet. Go look for professional help. Suicide would work as well.
(Oh, and how is the feeling being one strike away from permban) ?

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#124 (ISO #19)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
I'm not gonna fight with a 14 year old disturbed and spoiled kid. Learn to control your temper, if that doesn't work you should really visit a psychotherapist, and I sincerely mean this. Because so much hatred cannot come out of the mouth of a healthy person.
Control yourself.

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#128 (ISO #20)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
Back to the game! Although these comments from godliiiiiiike were made because he hates the world, there might be hidden motives, like him being mafia and deliberately acting dumb to vote others. We've created some pressure on Leo. I can honestly say that, judging by his posts, he doesn't seems suspicious to me. We got what we wanted, a reaction from him so we can analyze others' and his moves. Now it's a smart idea to move to godliiiiiike for the same reason and also to punish him for not playing in the interest of town, if he is town. If he's not, even better. If he is, he will hopefully learn his lesson and stop voting people based on his relation with them.
[vote godLiiiiiiiike]
Restrain yourself from making new spam posts. They are absolutely not needed here.

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#131 (ISO #21)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
Shadi wrote:
1) I don't think we have added enough pressure on Leo, and I think he's slipping personally - would like to see how it develops.
2) I feel like this is an OMGUS vote... although he does not seem to play for town, but I'd like to discuss his behaviour with SiX before we vote on him.


1) Too much pressure can lead to an uncontrollable bandwagon. He has made some posts, and he has either improved in this game and is faking it or is really innocent. I wanna see what Godlike has got to say to our accusations, a player as new as him can easily accidentally reveal something.
2) What does OMGUS mean? Also, his behavior has little to do with whether or not we will vote on him.

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#149 (ISO #22)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
Shadi wrote:
2) I feel like this is an OMGUS vote... although he does not seem to play for town, but I'd like to discuss his behaviour with SiX before we vote on him.


I voted him for two reasons:
Gamethrowing (if he is town) - He voted me solely entirely because of personal reasons, no real intent in helping the town. That was not a classic random vote, it was a vote made solely because of personal reasons. A little pressure might teach him a lesson.
Second (if he is mafia) - he might be acting dumb deliberately to try to get a bandwagon on me and thus eliminate a player from the opposing team.

Ultor wrote:
@Kontra
Apparently, you are using the same tactic as the previous game which seems useful to me. However, careful not to push it too far as it would put you on a very risky situation- as you discovered on the previous game. You voted against Leo first which resulted into a mini bandwagon and then changed directly against godlike. I do understand that you did this in order to protect yourself, however, if you were a mafia then this move would seem responsible as it would redirect attention from you. This tactic was used by HATER (who was the mafia) two games ago and it actually worked.


Read what I wrote to Shadi. There are actual reasons why I changed my vote to godliiiiiike. I also wrote (based on Leo's responds to people's accusations) that he seems not-too-fishy to me. Only 3 people voted him, and that was 20-24 hrs before the round start. A mini bandwagon as small as that one, can and will easily change, just like it did in this game. If I would use HATER's tactics I would've done 2-5 hours before the end of the round. Also, I wouldn't have said that Leo seems innocent.

Sheep wrote:
[Vote Shadi]

I do not recommend this. Shadi is obviously an active guy, who has proably made more posts in this game than anyone. There is no need to vote him. I think it's better to vote somebody else, to see what that somebody else has got to say. godliiiiiike, for example. Your vote on Shadi was random, and, let's be honest, what should he say to convince you not to vote for him? Second, Shadi is a player who can contribute so much to this game with activity, if he is town as of course.
@Everyone, do not vote Shadi.





Spoiler: show
Rainboy wrote:
K0ntRa and GodLiiiiiiiike, both of you have absolutely crossed a line in the last couple pages of this thread. The entirety of the permamod group including our adviser (that is, Hater, MMage, Shadi and myself) believes that you two have crossed a very serious line here. Werewolf is first and foremost a game about teamwork, and you two have not only forsaken this fundamental basis for the game in obvious and self destructive ways, you have continued on to make insults that obviously serve no in game purpose besides personally attacking each other.

You have both been hateful, vindictive and derogatory in the extreme, and it is the permamods' opinion that SiX is completely justified in modkilling either one or both of you if he chooses to do so. We stop short of recommending action because we also believe that everyone is human and we all need a second chance from time to time. That said, if we see any further incidents - especially of this magnitude - we will seriously consider the possibility of permanently banning you from joining any future werewolf games on this forum.

On a personal note, you may both consider yourselves banned from joining any future games I host until you have publicly apologized to each other to my satisfaction. I cannot, however, speak for the other permamods or hosts in that sentiment.


I respect your attempt to lower down the tensions, but I must say that I don't agree with the last part. When somebody harasses someone, don't expect that that someone will do nothing about it and let him continue. I don't like saying this childish sentence, but he is the one who started it xD. After the host warned us, I asked him to stop talking and calm down, after which he still continued spamming.
I will not ever apologize to him, not publicly not privately, not even if he apologizes to me first. The only thing I will apologize about is spamming. I did make a few not needed posts, and I'm sorry for that. Only for that.


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#154 (ISO #23)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
Sheep wrote:
K0ntRa wrote:

Sheep wrote:
[Vote Shadi]

I do not recommend this. Shadi is obviously an active guy, who has proably made more posts in this game than anyone. There is no need to vote him. I think it's better to vote somebody else, to see what that somebody else has got to say. godliiiiiike, for example. Your vote on Shadi was random, and, let's be honest, what should he say to convince you not to vote for him? Second, Shadi is a player who can contribute so much to this game with activity, if he is town as of course.
@Everyone, do not vote Shadi


Why would you trust Shadi so hard? How can you entirely be sure to know he's innocent and why do you defend him so much? Maybe because you're both Mafia? This makes me have a suspicion on you as well.

So changing my vote
[Vote K0ntRa]


I did not say I trust him, I said: 1) there is nothing he can say to convince you he's not mafia 2) he can contribute a lot to this game if he is playing for the town.
I am not sure that he's innocent, as a matter of fact I have no leads on him. I am defending him because there is no reason for you to vote him, and a BW is being created. He has got 3 votes on him, I don't want him to be voted for being active.
Doeda, could you elaborate why did you vote me now? For listing two completely logical reasons and defending a guy who is not being too suspicious?

!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
You posted a lot and it still doesn´t say what role you have or play.

(This has been said to Shadi, not me)
I am gonna try to explain it once more, for the third time now. Read carefully. Claiming alignment/role is a foolish thing to do. Everyone's claim will be villager. Villagers won't lie, mafia will. All will claim villager. If everybody claimed their roles, the mafia would know who has a power role - and they would kill those. PRs are important and we cannot afford to lose them. Roles can be claimed only to someone who is trusted to be villager.

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#171 (ISO #24)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
[quote"Shadi"]I do think the WK'ing here is a bit strong tbh kontra, although I appreciate someone uses actual logic this game.[/quote]

Heh what does WK'ing mean?

Emziek wrote:
I tend to agree with most of what you said the last 2 pages although I find it concerning how you and Kontra are advocating for one another. Can you elaborate further on the following? Why is he your strongest read?


I don't have time to go through Shadi's post completely now, but basically he seems more village to me than anyone else. This as of course does not mean that I trust him - if he asked me to support his vote or smt like that I wouldn't.
How about I answer your suspicion on me and Shadi with a counterquestion: Why do you think he is mafia?
He hasn't been suspicious at all, people are voting him just 'cause he posted a lot, and that's what happened to me in the last game too.
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I will keep defending Shadi. He doesn't seem guilty to me.
@Everyone who voted for Shadi: Why did you vote for him? He clearly isn't being suspicious, find me something suspicious that he has written. A random lynch would not be a smart idea, he has posted a lot, we have gotten to see how he acts, who he defends and stuff. So there is no need for him to talk more, instead, let's hear more from others who have been quiet the whole game. There's like 6-7 people out of 24-ish actively participating in the discussion, get active people.
I demand answers!

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#177 (ISO #25)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
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And i think it don´t must be a coincidence that K09 get injured again, sure it could be again that a mafia guy try to hold the experienced players like him out of the game with maybe the right lynch votes. But why can it also not be that he thought "hey i got 2 times injured as a villager, so why not injure myself again to get the trust of the villagers"???


It's all maybe, maybe not. No real facts. This theory won't lead to much and it's pretty far fetched right now.

Ultor wrote:
Shadi wrote:
What was this game tactic you're talking about last game though? I'd like to hear your thoughts.


HATER, as a mafia, started a mini-bandwagon on SiX and then swiftly changed his vote towards someone else- SiX was lynched and died.


Dunno if you're talking about me, if you are read this again:
K0ntRa wrote:
Read what I wrote to Shadi. There are actual reasons why I changed my vote to godliiiiiike. I also wrote (based on Leo's responds to people's accusations) that he seems not-too-fishy to me. Only 3 people voted him, and that was 20-24 hrs before the round start. A mini bandwagon as small as that one, can and will easily change, just like it did in this game. If I would use HATER's tactics I would've done 2-5 hours before the end of the round. Also, I wouldn't have said that Leo seems innocent.


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#182 (ISO #26)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:

To this post of defending Kontra, I just say his calculation style and his "gut feeling" led in the last game that he got fast lynched. So maybe good thoughts but he wasn´t trustable enough to get protected by the doc. Making to much pressure on others (maybe villagers) is also not helpfull like claiming to be a villager as you said. And the pressure thing is not really helpful in my opinion if you have like more then 10-15 quiet playing persons. All need to defend themself if they get pressure with votes on them, mafia or villager doesn´t matter. Pressure on AFK is just a good thing to involve the silent players in the game and to hope to see maybe some failing comments of them then. The chance is higher to make wrong pressure on active villagers than more on the real quiet mafia guys that rubb their hands together and think like "look this villager LMAO"

I hope all was understandable, i know my english suck, but I hope you get my Point all.


Being active in the game and helping the village got me lynched, and that is exactly what's happening to Shadi right now. I say we stop this nonsense before it escalates and people join the bandwagon on him.

It is helpful, that way they will speak more and we'll gain a bit more info out of them. It's quite different with AFKs, someone who doesn't want to play most likely won't give a Duck about getting lynched.

Why are the chances higher? Elaborate. It's kinda hard to understand most of what you write...



Emziek wrote:
I don't think he's mafia and not once did I state this was my read. Infact he is my strongest village read since #170.


uhh my bad, I misunderstood you. :)

Konijn, what are your thoughts on the game so far? Who would you vote for if you weren't injured?

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#183 (ISO #27)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
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I can´t tell anyone specially on what we should vote to hear more...maybe first the guys that doesn´t said anything in the game or on guys like POOO or sheep that voted on guys with small posts and hadn´t that much to say for what reason they did it?!


They are both new to this game, therefore I doubt they are smart enough to deliberately act stupid in order to go unpunished.

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#193 (ISO #28)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
Shadi wrote:
Also if I'm not mistaken round should end in like 4½ hours? idk.


I think 3 and a half at the time of you writing that message. It ends at 20 CET if I'm not mistaken.

Also, is it possible to write some command to tell GERTY to tally up the votes?

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#217 (ISO #29)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R1 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Shadi wrote:
Konijn wrote:
Quote:
Inactive Voters: Konijn (2 rounds)


Stupid bot.

Also sucky result but as someone pointed out last time it's almost always a villager who get lynched the first round, at least neither of those who died had power roles.


It's not the alignment that bothers me, it's the fact that they were both useles and therefore die useless.


Personally, I think that we were lucky that 2 vanillagers with no powers died, and also neither of them was contributing anything to the game. It's good that the hitman hasn't used his ability yet, he might get lynched or something. If I was a hitman, I would've used my shot already in the first round.
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There are 16 villagers left and 6 mafia, and we haven't got many leads so far. This round we'll have to random vote people again. I wanna hear more from you Leon, who do you find suspicious, do you have any theories about the two deaths this round, why were you inactive (only 1 post expect [in]).
[vote Leon Kennedy]

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#220 (ISO #30)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R1 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Shadi wrote:
idk godlike was pretty anti-town, don't really blame them for wanting to vote him out when there's no fool/third party role he could have been, although it doesn't hurt to hear more from them


K0ntRa wrote:
I voted him for two reasons:
Gamethrowing (if he is town) - He voted me solely entirely because of personal reasons, no real intent in helping the town. That was not a classic random vote, it was a vote made solely because of personal reasons. A little pressure might teach him a lesson.
Second (if he is mafia) - he might be acting dumb deliberately to try to get a bandwagon on me and thus eliminate a player from the opposing team.


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#222 (ISO #31)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R1 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Ultor wrote:
Shadi wrote:
idk godlike was pretty anti-town, don't really blame them for wanting to vote him out when there's no fool/third party role he could have been, although it doesn't hurt to hear more from them


Kontra's actions are justified, the other 2 seemed to be using their own personal reason to lynch him. Remember we have 2 Goons in the game which is why I strongly recommend focusing on those 2.

Goons aren't the only mafia members who can vote.

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#240 (ISO #32)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
Mystic wrote:
Shadi wrote:
Shadi wrote:
I think my vote goes to Mystic, with his experience his playstyle should be a lot better.

He has six posts in total

ISO #1 / #26 = sign in post
ISO #2 / #47 = useless and harmful vanilliger claim
ISO #3 / #58 = RVS vote on HATER (I assume it's RVS? Says nothing and happened straight after R0 hospitalisation)
ISO #4 / #66 = asking me if I'm into ERP after giving him question about his harmful village claim, dodging actual questions with another question not related to the game at all.
ISO #5 / #70 = The post that seems really odd to me, in this post he claims he wants to look like his village self. I'll elaborate in my conclusion.
ISO #6 / #139 = Him stating he "likes Godlike" probably because of his toxic behaviour being funny, albeit his intentions it was completely useless.

Conclusion:

With one post that actually said anything about his intentions in any way, (ISO #5 / #70) is not very village like. In addition Mystic has plenty of experience to know that he can say and do so much more than what he's doing now. Check spoiler for statistical evidence.

Spoiler: show
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In addition to being playing this weirdly, he openly admits that (ISO #5 / #70 is because that's what his town self did in another game. I VERY much not like this, and the reason is, a townie should not be concerned about looking town. They should be getting out there, actively posting, actively being inquiring and try to stabilise the village and make sure there's as much information on the thread to go back to in future rounds. He's done none of this.

If this lynch becomes real and he flips villager, it wouldn't harm us that much, he's not contributing to the village anyway. And this might make him actually say something, he should be saying something he knows how the game works.
If this lynch becomes real and he flips mafia, gg.

[Vote Mystic]

To Mystic: share some thoughts, reads, info, why have you been quiet?

oh and eid mubarak hehe xd


[Vote Mystic]

lul you too xD.
my read on you, pretty tryhard trynna be the leader for village atm, not sure if you issued the shot on HATER, and then jumped onto me because obviously I voted for him, getting rid of a strong player and also creating a strong/easy bandwagon. Ultor seems to be getting on Lawliets dick for some reason, not quite sure why, > diverting attention (?). K0ntra is basically all up in your booty, not sure if both mafia or kontra is inclined to believe you are village due to the activity and leading role you've taken.


Go through my posts again, I have good reasons for defending Shadi. I do not trust him completely, but I had to do something about that mini BW on him.

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#267 (ISO #33)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R1 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
@Host, I suggest not giving the best newcomer award to anyone if they keep AFKing like this. Literally none of them contributed anything to the game (Doeda did write something recently, but it was short posts for defending himself). I'd rather not give 48,000 $ to anyone then give it to some AFK guy who doesn't deserve it. You could maybe add that money to the money for victory or save it for another event.
Also, I'd like a list of people who are considered newcomers. Or at least tell me if Ultor and Sweedy are considered newcomers.

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#270 (ISO #34)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R1 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
CrisP0 wrote:
dunno why but i feel like Konijn is a mafia guy. each game we played he got injuried at r0 and killed at r1.
but in this one he just injuried at the r0 that's why i think it could be a smart idea from the mafia team.
[Vote Konijn]


Maybe the mafia are scared he'll get protected by the doctor, because he definitely has been a target of many kills and injuries in the past. A few more and it'll become a tradition.

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#288 (ISO #35)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R1 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Did you accidentally delete the screenshots or something? I'm getting impatient, either show them or unvote.

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#330 (ISO #36)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R2 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Laaraaah wrote:
[Vote Sheep]


Too late.

I also failed to change my vote to someone more suspicious in time, soz.

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#338 (ISO #37)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R2 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Shadi wrote:
so if sheep is village we lynch ultor


I wouldn't jump on conclusions so fast. I'll decide later if I will support this.

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#342 (ISO #38)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R2 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Ultor wrote:
As for the vigilante, please use your 2 shots before you get killed, mainly on AFKs. Doctor, please protect those who are trying to unite the villager, me or Shadi. Good luck.

16 villagers left, 6 maf. The chances of getting the wrong guy are way too high - 37.5 %. And we actually have usage in (village) AFKs. Why should we help mafia kill us all?! Better we let them to do it by the NK's.

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#343 (ISO #39)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R2 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
I dunno about you guys, but im definitely gonna place my vote on WaywardVole next round. Might change if he starts being active. Almost every time I read this thread, he is browsing it too and he has made a staggering amount of ------ 1 posts. I ain't gonna let you win by low activity again, that's how you won the last game - well it isn't happening this time.

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#348 (ISO #40)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R2 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
SiX I believe you're mistaken, I think only 3 people managed to vote Sheep before the round end.
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As for the results of this round, I can't say I'm too happy about Sheep being a townie. This brings us to a somewhat difficult situation - 11 villagers, 6 mafia. We can still win this, but not if we fuck up the lynch in this round. At least the roles of the people who died weren't too good - two vanillagers and a nurse. Could've been worse. Also the mafia were stupid enough to kill Ultor - a guy who would have high chances of being lynched.
Everybody, do you have any leads? The deputy must have contacted the innocents that he has peeked by now. We're too far in the game, this mustn't turn into another round 1. With Ultor dead we really have nobody suspicious enough for voting him.
As promised, I'll [vote WaywardVole] for the reasons previously mentioned.
K0ntRa wrote:
I dunno about you guys, but im definitely gonna place my vote on WaywardVole next round. Might change if he starts being active. Almost every time I read this thread, he is browsing it too and he has made a staggering amount of ------ 1 posts. I ain't gonna let you win by low activity again, that's how you won the last game - well it isn't happening this time.


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#352 (ISO #41)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
It's also possible that an AFK guy has that role and maybe even some other useful ones.

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#361 (ISO #42)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
WAT??! Are you crazy xD

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#362 (ISO #43)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
About the people who voted on Ultor or Doeda. I really doubt that any mafia voted for them, maybe just 1 mafia guy or smt like that, why should they intervene if they are both innocent? We have got nothing so far and it's round 3. 11 townies 6 mafia left in the game... This doesn't sound good.

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#363 (ISO #44)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
@Vigilante, if I were you I wouldn't use the shot on anyone, you should wait until something a bit more concrete comes up.
@Deputy, remember to speak to the innocent players you've peeked and tell them about the mafia you have peeked.

@WaywardVole, I want you to start discussing, pronto! Always reading this topic but always so quiet. You won't win like that again.

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#365 (ISO #45)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
I dont think that the vig shot Ultor. If you did, vig, and you're reading this - you are retarded.

Shadi wrote:
Lawliet also seems to have voted for Ultor before, I think we should look into Lawliet yet, seems like other people wanna know more about him as well from previous rounds including Ultor.


K0ntRa wrote:
About the people who voted on Ultor or Doeda. I really doubt that any mafia voted for them, maybe just 1 mafia guy or smt like that, why should they intervene if they are both innocent? We have got nothing so far and it's round 3. 11 townies 6 mafia left in the game... This doesn't sound good.


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#367 (ISO #46)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
no pls lawliet is a mafia friend

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#368 (ISO #47)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
yeh, sweedy does seem a bit too quiet for my taste.

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Has anybody spoken to Wayward?

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#381 (ISO #48)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
@Lawliet, that plan sounds sweet but it's a bit risky. We might wanna do it in round 4, if we fail to kill a mafia player this round. Also, even if all of the PRs connected, how would they know who's mafia and who is not? Vigilante, you should wait a bit before claiming, I'd wait until more people said if they think this plan is good. For all we know, Lawliet might be mafia trying to trick the vig into claiming. If we find out that Ultor was killed by the hitman and not by the vig - we should definitely study Lawliet's moves a bit.
Quote:
1) If either the doc or the vigilante is AFK, we're screwed. (Doc is afk -> vigilante might die / Vigilante is afk -> the mafia have a better chance in killing him before he gets replaced/active)

Nope, you have mistaken. If the vig is AFK nothing will happen - no harm done. The mafia wont dare to target the vig, and they wont know if the doc is AFK or not.

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#382 (ISO #49)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
POOOOO wrote:
[Vote k0ntra]
Reading his posts, seems suspicious to me.

Elaborate? What posts seemed suspicious to you?

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#403 (ISO #50)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Lawliet wrote:
K0ntRa wrote:
@Lawliet, that plan sounds sweet but it's a bit risky. We might wanna do it in round 4, if we fail to kill a mafia player this round. Also, even if all of the PRs connected, how would they know who's mafia and who is not? Vigilante, you should wait a bit before claiming, I'd wait until more people said if they think this plan is good. For all we know, Lawliet might be mafia trying to trick the vig into claiming. If we find out that Ultor was killed by the hitman and not by the vig - we should definitely study Lawliet's moves a bit.
Quote:
1) If either the doc or the vigilante is AFK, we're screwed. (Doc is afk -> vigilante might die / Vigilante is afk -> the mafia have a better chance in killing him before he gets replaced/active)

Nope, you have mistaken. If the vig is AFK nothing will happen - no harm done. The mafia wont dare to target the vig, and they wont know if the doc is AFK or not.


Nope, I haven't.. If the vigilante is afk after people agree to this plan.. the mafia then have like ~4 targets to choose from.
we might wanna do it in R4 ? why is that ? what's wrong with getting the PRs together before we lose them for nothing?
The only direct way to find a mafia is by peeking..now when the cop knows who the other PRs are he can remove them from the list which will increase the chances of him peeking a mafia.. getting their opinions and discussing with them who to peek will make the chances even higher.. Is it that hard to get to this conclusion?

I don't get the reason here..mind to elaborate ?

@Shadi:
SiX wrote:
Lawliet wrote:
@host, what is the order of actions in this game, let's say the mafia target the vigilante and the vigilante targets X.. what would happen ? will both the vigilante and X die or would it be only the vigilante?


Lynch - Doctor - Kills - Peeks.
If Vigilante shoots X and the Mafia shoots the Vigilante, both X and the Vigilante will die.



Now we know if a mafia counter-claim, the vig can deal with em. and as I said it'd be so worth for the town.

The risky play right now is playing the same way we played the previous 2 rounds.


For all we know you could be mafia trying to get the PRs to claim. Nobody could blame you if that plan failed, only the idea was your. Still, I wouldn't vote you based just on that.
After reading your ISO a bit, I can say that you are currently my biggest suspect, followed by Programma and Wayward.

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#407 (ISO #51)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Okay it's time to take the risk and follow Lawliet's plan as there are only 8 townies left in the game and 5 mafia - @Vigilante - claim your role.

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#409 (ISO #52)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
[vote Lawliet]
You are currently my greatest suspect. After reading your ISO I came to the conclusion that you are playing extremely silently, and most of your posts are to defend yourself - expect for the vigilante plan which can be good both for the village and the mafia if the mafia play the cards right. I can't judge on this until/if the vigilante claims. Also, you voted Ultor twice, who later flipped out village. Your second vote on him most definitely wasn't a random one.



Konijn wrote:
P.S. I find it suspicious that "strong/active" players have been NK but you yourself, the most active person in the game have not. If you were truly so vital to the village as you would lead us to believe, then surely you would be a prime target for mafia.


Strong/active? HATER was afk, Mystic wasn't contributing much to the game. Only Ish was relatively active.

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#448 (ISO #53)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Shadi wrote:
kontra and sweedy are probably innocent, throughout the game they have been fine with lynching leo - anyone i'm missing?


actually before the post by CrisPO, leo seemed relatively innocent to me... at least more innocent then most other guys.
*sigh* i know ill regret this when he flips mafia

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#450 (ISO #54)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
[vote !!!*-Leo-*!!!]
Because of Messi's fail I trust Shadi, and Shadi must trust CrisP0.

@Shadi, what's cc?
:D

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#455 (ISO #55)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Quote:
For now i don't know who i should vote you Crispo or Shadi...it Shows me you are both mafia but who have the better PR??? I think after your claiming you try to safe shadi so...

[vote shadi]

@K09 well im not 100% sure you are mafia too, but also as i said you are the most trustworthy for me and i hope they don't shot you ot things like that in the night, bcs you are on the right way to fight against those mafia guys !!!


Your logic is... uhh there's no word for it. You can either trust Shadi and Konijn, or not trust both of them. In this case you cannot trust one and not trust the other based on what CrisP0 said. If Shadi/Koni are village, they are gonna trust CrisP0 100% and vote you. If they are mafia CrisP0 is also mafia probably. But if he's not, and they are - they would do the same thing. Because they won't deny being town.

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#456 (ISO #56)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
why is counterfeiter cc? theres only one c in his name lmao :D

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#457 (ISO #57)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
But villager friends i wont give up


!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
[vote !!!*-Leo-*!!!]


:facepalm:

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#461 (ISO #58)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Blimey. Nothing to do for the next twenty hours.

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#463 (ISO #59)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
K0ntRa wrote:
Quote:
For now i don't know who i should vote you Crispo or Shadi...it Shows me you are both mafia but who have the better PR??? I think after your claiming you try to safe shadi so...

[vote shadi]

@K09 well im not 100% sure you are mafia too, but also as i said you are the most trustworthy for me and i hope they don't shot you ot things like that in the night, bcs you are on the right way to fight against those mafia guys !!!


Your logic is... uhh there's no word for it. You can either trust Shadi and Konijn, or not trust both of them. In this case you cannot trust one and not trust the other based on what CrisP0 said. If Shadi/Koni are village, they are gonna trust CrisP0 100% and vote you. If they are mafia CrisP0 is also mafia probably. But if he's not, and they are - they would do the same thing. Because they won't deny being town.


This thoughts i had before K09 opend my eyes, i missed that counterfeiter part too and i can't be sure too that Crispo don't lie for the fact that the mafia used in the right time their role on me...Thats why i thought direct shadi and Crispo must lie..bsc i know im villager.


Konijn must lie too in that case. You really don't get this game, do you?

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#466 (ISO #60)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Something concerns me...
Leo is clearly not too good at this game, but is he really that bad that he claimed a role only one guy has. Everyone would normally claim vanillager. And what concerns me is that nobody else claimed officer. It might be just because the real officer is AFK and that really sucks. However, there is another scenario. What if the officer is too scared to counterclaim? @Officer, if you are reading this, you should really counterclaim. The mafia won't kill you, there's really no point since CrisP0 will prolly be protected by the doc. Your role has no usage ATM. If noone was afk this wouldn't be an issue, but, *sigh*, it is. This is just a theory as of course, and Leo not being targeted by the counterfeiter is strategically - way more likely.
@Officer, claim your role.

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#468 (ISO #61)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
K0ntRa wrote:
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
K0ntRa wrote:
Quote:
For now i don't know who i should vote you Crispo or Shadi...it Shows me you are both mafia but who have the better PR??? I think after your claiming you try to safe shadi so...

[vote shadi]

@K09 well im not 100% sure you are mafia too, but also as i said you are the most trustworthy for me and i hope they don't shot you ot things like that in the night, bcs you are on the right way to fight against those mafia guys !!!


Your logic is... uhh there's no word for it. You can either trust Shadi and Konijn, or not trust both of them. In this case you cannot trust one and not trust the other based on what CrisP0 said. If Shadi/Koni are village, they are gonna trust CrisP0 100% and vote you. If they are mafia CrisP0 is also mafia probably. But if he's not, and they are - they would do the same thing. Because they won't deny being town.


This thoughts i had before K09 opend my eyes, i missed that counterfeiter part too and i can't be sure too that Crispo don't lie for the fact that the mafia used in the right time their role on me...Thats why i thought direct shadi and Crispo must lie..bsc i know im villager.


Konijn must lie too in that case. You really don't get this game, do you?


OMG read what K09 said in his post where he all explained in a good way...i tell you I'm villager...if you believe me or not i dont give a fuck at this point..but it shows that K09 is not lieing, he just read all better and let the chance (for me) excist that it can be true that im one of the town and you'll see it in like 20hours if i get lynched.

"If"? That made me laugh xD

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#469 (ISO #62)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Konijn wrote:
K0ntRa wrote:
Konijn must lie too in that case. You really don't get this game, do you?

I must be missing something, can you explain?


It's really hard to explain but I'll do my best.
The question is basically, what role is CrisP0. If he is a deputy as he claims to be, everything is OK, both of you are innocent and he's telling the truth. If he is mafia - he would have carefully picked two people for whom he will claim that they are villagers. Logic dictates he picked villagers, but not necessarily, it wouldn't be such a bad idea if he picked two mafia. He could coordinate with them and be more efficient. I doubt he would pick one townie and one mafia.
This leads me to two another questions, Leo: Why don't you trust Shadi? And why do you trust Konijn? Just because he explained something to you?

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#471 (ISO #63)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
I'm dying hahahahaha. That wasn't even an insult for your English. It was more of an insult to your believing you still stand a chance to not be lynched. If means that the event we're speaking about might not happen - and let's be honest, you'll be lynched for sure. That was a friendly joke dude. Didn't know you were so sensitive :C

First Shadi, now me... Just die a hero as death - without constant whining.

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#474 (ISO #64)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
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!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
why should i claim im officer and not that im the real deputy or an important villager = doc or villigante???


Because if you are really the officer noone would counterclaim. By claiming any other role you risk someone else counterclaiming. Btw, in future, when you are mafia and you get exposed like this, claim vanilla.

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#476 (ISO #65)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
!!!*-leo-*!!! wrote:
And wasn't you the guy that died last game so fast as villager...so a clever guy like you couldn't convince the others better to not vote lynch you?
But wait let me guess, the others were just to dumb and we should blame them for it :lol:

Why don't you go check that game mate, and see what actually happened. Find me a single suspicious post and I'll admit it. I died simply because I talked a lot. A bandwagon was created on Shadi in this game, also just because he talked a lot. A couple of people voted for me - also just because I talked a lot, and they said that I seem suspicious to them. Active people usually end up as dead people, I'm surprised you failed to realize this after 4 games. Oh well...

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#478 (ISO #66)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Lawliet wrote:
Firstly, [vote !!!*-Leo-*!!!]

secondly,
K0ntRa wrote:
[vote Lawliet]
You are currently my greatest suspect. After reading your ISO I came to the conclusion that you are playing extremely silently, and most of your posts are to defend yourself - expect for the vigilante plan which can be good both for the village and the mafia if the mafia play the cards right. I can't judge on this until/if the vigilante claims. Also, you voted Ultor twice, who later flipped out village. Your second vote on him most definitely wasn't a random one.



Konijn wrote:
P.S. I find it suspicious that "strong/active" players have been NK but you yourself, the most active person in the game have not. If you were truly so vital to the village as you would lead us to believe, then surely you would be a prime target for mafia.


Strong/active? HATER was afk, Mystic wasn't contributing much to the game. Only Ish was relatively active.


wait what?
I was pretty sure about my replies but your post made me go through them and check.. I haven't tried to defend myself even once.. I never needed to..
Also, Almost none of my votes are random.. Ultor was being suspicious.. I wasn't the only one suspecting him..And you do know that my vote on him wasn't randomly chosen/following someone's vote.. yet you suspect me for it..is voting him with some reasons is suspicious and voting him randomly isn't? I don't get your reasoning here..

I'll be really busy the next 24 hours.. I'll check your reply to this whenever I get the chance..


ISOs #3 and #7.

You voted him for: "I'll [vote ultor] this round again.. his actions doesn't (xD) feel right." He is new to this game, thus not the best. Voting a newcomer for messed up logic is kinda suspicious to me.

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#491 (ISO #67)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
Shadi wrote:
if leo does flip mafia i'm almost 100% confirmed btw.


If i flip village what will happen, you all need more time to find out who is lieing and who not. A mafia guy that can peek is active too = don. And my feeling tell me it is Kontra (don) or one of the guys that voted at last on me. And that would explain me why you didn't got shot as just a normal villager shadi (if you got peeked)...and Kontra as maybe a mafia (not confirmed villager) guy.


The chances of the doctor protecting someone active are much higher then him protecting someone else. No PRs were shot in the game which denies your don theory.

!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
I re-read a lot (I looked specially where all voted on who and what others did in general) and found many suspicious guys for my thoughts, but it would take a year to explain all and i wont do put so much effort again into all if im just some hours away to get innocent killed.

Maybe if you look to this guys you find some suspicious moves out too and come closer to get the real mafia ones killed.


Sweedy very suspicious: For his quiet playing and votes he did. Voted on me the 1st time with now really explanation, changed a bit to fast to no vote after i asked him early in the game per steam and now act like oh sry have to do it Leo and again nothin really to say to all. Last game same gameplay style = Hitman.

Lawliet suspicious: For some votes and his masterplan (villigant shots) what could lead at the moment he made it to kill innocent villagers and that the villigant use his shot and can't use it then when it's really needed later maybe.

Kontra suspicious: It looks for me like he used since beginning the game his posts and playstyle to stay allive besides a real villager = shadi...I wouldn't be surprised if Kontra is the don and peeked shadi at the start...saw he is just a villager with no power role and it would be the best to stay beside of shadi, if shadi do a lot to get the villagers together. And don't Forget Kontra is not confirmed villager as shadi or K09 by Crispo.

Emziek innocent: My "gut feeling" had nothin much to say to all but his small post and thoughts were "mostly" not "at all" right.

Programma suspicious: His quiet gameplay style and his posts. Emziek confirmed my thoughts a little bit if you look his post about Programma.

Wywardvole much suspicious: He know how the game works and played it quiet like that in the last game too and was not mafia but won as SK the game. And i saw he was many times during this game started on as spectator but didn't post a lot, sure can be too that he might be the doc.

Laarah hardly suspicious: As all saw it voted all the time on villagers if Crispo doesn't lie...but i wouldn't blame her for anything she never played this game as i saw nor she understand the rules (btw was to busy to explain it her)

Shadi and Ko9 IDK: after Crispo's post i need to trust him too and would've done the same and would think im mafia.


And for your thoughts Crispo i defended Laraaah only once and that with more then one post but all where i defended her was lead to the first time i asked SiX to give her a chance here is the evidence and i think i can post it because this screenshot shows only how confused she is about this game and how it works. http://imgur.com/KW7OFh8

And one more thing for you Crispo 60% + 40% + 60% = 160% :D

(Laraaaah: 60% leo was protecting her all the time and when she was going to get modkilled by Six he start defending her that he gonna help her to understand the game.
Emziek: 40% the last post he made about here comes the modkills make me thinking that he could be a mafia guy.. imo, he act like he knows that all of them was just villagers.
K0ntra 60% his posts was really suspicious to me anyway and he voted lawliet this time even that lawliet already voted leo many times)

GL villagers and well played atm mafia guys.

And sure i might be wrong with many of my thoughts too, but that was my last move to still help the town !!!


PS: Forget to ask one thing @Crispo...why you didn't peeked Kontra??? Was he so innocent for you with all his posts??? I think you had to peek him too in my opinion to see that all active poster are town and work together.


I'm sorry to say this, but all this is crap. Emziek and Programma are playing the same way, silently and one of them is suspicious to you while the other is not. Your opinions on people are extremely biased, some to cover your teammates and some because of personal reasons. You still don't understand many elementary things.

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#494 (ISO #68)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Emziek wrote:
K0ntRa wrote:
I'm sorry to say this, but all this is crap. Emziek and Programma are playing the same way, silently and one of them is suspicious to you while the other is not. Your opinions on people are extremely biased, some to cover your teammates and some because of personal reasons. You still don't understand many elementary things.

Not been keeping up with my ISO lately?


Oh...

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#496 (ISO #69)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
Shadi wrote:
if leo does flip mafia i'm almost 100% confirmed btw.


Not true at all i think. It still can be that Crispo work with you together to trick all others...and you would be smart enough that you made this plan with Crispo ;)


Elaborate? Shadi and Konijn will be confirmed townies if... when you flip mafia.

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#502 (ISO #70)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
what does the gf have to do with you being innocent?

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#527 (ISO #71)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
I'm with Koni here. If Leo flips village we lynch Crispo.

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#539 (ISO #72)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Shadi wrote:
20:01 - Shadi: PLS TELL ME URE NOT IN A GAME
20:02 - Six: I am :D
20:02 - Shadi: how far in?
20:02 - Six: minn 30

gg boys, little delay.


we got used to it by now :D

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#542 (ISO #73)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
the round is over it ends 8 pm CET

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#544 (ISO #74)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
:facepalm:


let me put it this way, when its 20:00 on your clock it means that the current round has just ended

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#548 (ISO #75)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
WaywardVole wrote:
Damn, I thought I'd make it by the skin of my teeth. (We lost power so our cocks are off atm.) Thanks for letting me know K0ntRa.


what? i dont understand

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#569 (ISO #76)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
I KNEW IT LAWLIET! I KNEW IT!

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#570 (ISO #77)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Thanks for hosting SiX! I'd like a list of people considered newcomers so I know who I can vote.

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#582 (ISO #78)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
(no order)
X: Shadi
X: Emziek
X: Konijn
X: WaywardVole
X: Ultor

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#583 (ISO #79)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
SiX can we have the list of roles? Also, did the vig shoot Ultor or was is the hitman?

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#605 (ISO #80)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
STEAM_0_0:156253277

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