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#4 (ISO #1)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
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#63 (ISO #2)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality
Not this shit again...

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#200 (ISO #3)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R1 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
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#203 (ISO #4)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R1 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
OK I got GERTY working... for now, but he is extremely temperamental and subject to break at any time. I'll try to fix him if he does but the code is not mine and it's a bit bloated which makes it difficult.

A few people were wondering why I've not said much in the topic, I wasn't at home all day on Monday and I was travelling home most of the day on Tuesday.

There has been so many posts so far and to be frank I don't want to spend a couple of hours reading through them. I skimmed through most of the posts and I've read most of the posts from page 12 onward. I saw some people talk about a bandwagon on Shadi (although that doesn't seem to be the case anymore and I cba to tally the votes up to see if it ever was) but just to touch on that, I've made the mistake of thinking "this guy is super active, giving his opinions and trying to mislead/suggest people to vote", I've seen the village bandwagon those people and them to flip village so I would advise against doing that.

I don't have reads on anyone right now, I'm kinda thankful that I don't have to vote this round but I will certainly be reading every post from now on and trying to engage more in the game going forward (assuming I don't get NK...).

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#209 (ISO #5)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R1 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
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#213 (ISO #6)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R1 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
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Inactive Voters: Konijn (2 rounds)


Stupid bot.

Also sucky result but as someone pointed out last time it's almost always a villager who get lynched the first round, at least neither of those who died had power roles.

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#262 (ISO #7)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R1 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Meh gonna just vote a random AFK in the hope it forces them to post. Will change vote if he comes alive or if the evidence Ultor provides about Sheep is substantiated

[vote Ghost Shooter]

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#310 (ISO #8)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R2 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Been out most of the day so again not been keeping up with what has been going on.

Based on those screenshots going to [Vote Sheep]

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#322 (ISO #9)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R2 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Shadi wrote:
39 min remaining AYYY

SiX posted over 2 hours ago saying round ends in 1 1/2 hours. Asked him about it on Steam and he confirmed it has already ended.

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#327 (ISO #10)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R2 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
Well if we stay day for day at the same time, it ends in 35minutes and i would appreciate to have a constand time for the end to know when to switch maybe a vote fast or not.

BTW you ignore all my steam Messages shadi...next day/round i'll make pressure on you :D

It is a constant time. The round ended at 21:00 GMT+3 R1 also, he just posted at a delayed time. Likewise, this round ended @ 21:00 GMT+3.

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#331 (ISO #11)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R2 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
Konijn wrote:
!!!*-Leo-*!!! wrote:
Well if we stay day for day at the same time, it ends in 35minutes and i would appreciate to have a constand time for the end to know when to switch maybe a vote fast or not.

BTW you ignore all my steam Messages shadi...next day/round i'll make pressure on you :D

It is a constant time. The round ended at 21:00 GMT+3 R1 also, he just posted at a delayed time. Likewise, this round ended @ 21:00 GMT+3.


So that mean the round ended 30minutes ago?

Yes. viewtopic.php?p=470866#p470866 This was the last post made before the round ended.

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#336 (ISO #12)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R2 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Shadi wrote:
so if sheep is village we lynch ultor

Why? He didn't even vote for him and even said that he didn't think he was mafia, that he was only trolling.

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#344 (ISO #13)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R2 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
K0ntRa wrote:
Ultor wrote:
As for the vigilante, please use your 2 shots before you get killed, mainly on AFKs. Doctor, please protect those who are trying to unite the villager, me or Shadi. Good luck.

16 villagers left, 6 maf. The chances of getting the wrong guy are way too high - 37.5 %. And we actually have usage in (village) AFKs. Why should we help mafia kill us all?! Better we let them to do it by the NK's.

Also shooting AFKs to get rid of them is a waste seeing as they will be modkilled if they continue to AFK.

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#389 (ISO #14)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
SiX wrote:
Ish wrote:
SiX wrote:

No.



Why? I understand if I was a mafia player, as I would know who the rest of the mafia team are.


With Ish out of the game, that means no more reads from that player, be them good or bad.

Lets say you become a Town Member. There's no saying you haven't updated any crucial views on some people which SHOULD have died with you. Or that you have spoken to some dead players.

Lets say you become a Mafia Member. There's no saying you haven't been told certain players roles prior to your death. Or once again, spoken with people after you died. Which could result in giving the Mafia information, information they shouldn't have in the first place.

Then there's the main reason about you yourself as a player. Have you ever killed someone because they are that someone? E.g. HATER usually dies early game because he's usually a threat if he's alive. What I'm trying to say is that your death may have been the result of removing a more experienced player / a larger threat from the game. To bring you back, if that's the motivation behind your death, would be unfair to those who decided to kill you. If they decided to kill you to remove your reads from the game, then why should you be allowed to come back and make new reads?

Lastly, if I have to add yet another reason, we have the money issue. Lets say you become a Mafia Member. Then I'll have difficulties deciding how to distribute the money (although I'm not sure if you want any in the first place). But to grant you a place to be resurrected as a replacement, then why shouldn't I bring back HATER, Ultor, Godliiiike and everyone else who have died as well? It will give cause to some heavy special treatment as well as the entire way WW is constructed (1 player, 1 life) would be heavily disturbed.

Probably the most well thought out post in the game so far :kappa:

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#397 (ISO #15)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
This game feels kinda weird to me, I missed a lot from being busy the first two days the game started so I feel a little out of the loop, but at the same time there are 27 pages in this thread and I've read most stuff from page 11 onward but nothing really seems to be happening. I'm wondering why the village PRs roles aren't doing anything, why is the deputy not peeking people & forming a 'circle of trust' - or maybe they are? I suppose there's a possibility the deputy role was given to a new player and if this is the case, please make sure you target someone each night and act on that information.

For now I will [vote POOOOO] as you still haven't explained what exactly is suspicious about k0ntra.

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#408 (ISO #16)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
[vote Shadi]

Every person you've voted for or suspected of being mafia has flipped village. I realise you've not directly told anyone (at least not publicly) to vote for people, but those you've voted for have turned into bandwagons and resulted in many villager deaths. You've told me many times you can read people like a book on nD WW games yet you've not only not identified any mafia, you've misled the village several times. That, plus when I asked you on TeamSpeak if you were a Mafia you seemed to have a nervous laugh which to me indicated that you were, though I had no stronger evidence at the time to support it. You're my best (and only real) suspect right now.

P.S. I find it suspicious that "strong/active" players have been NK but you yourself, the most active person in the game have not. If you were truly so vital to the village as you would lead us to believe, then surely you would be a prime target for mafia.

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#421 (ISO #17)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
[Vote !!!*-Leo-*!!!]
see Crisp0's post.

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#426 (ISO #18)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
OK
Spoiler: show
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Let's break it down.

Here are the possible scenarios:

1) Crisp0 is the deputy, what he is saying is correct and Leo is a Mafia member
2) Crisp0 is the deputy, what he is saying is correct but the counterfeiter targetted Leo the same round Crisp0 did, so the result was flipped (Statistically unlikely)
3) Crisp0 is mafia, he is lying to force a lynch of Leo. Given how well the Mafia are doing, such a desperate play seems unlikely. Once Leo was lynched and revealed to be villager Crisp0 would be under suspicion and would likely try to argue his way out of it using the counterfeiter arguement above (btw, if Leo does flip village, Crisp0 must be lynched, it is statistically more likely for Crisp0 to be a mafia than to have had the counterfeiter target Leo the very same round that Crisp0 just so happened to, much more likely in this scenario for him to be a mafia and we should play to the odds)

I believe these are the only possibilities, please correct me if I'm wrong. Out of these possibilities the first one is the most likely and unless strong evidence is presented, we should pursue this.

P.P.S:

Let the record show that despite a deputy claim Messi and Larah are not only not following the lynch, they are starting a bandwagon on Shadi (possibly unaware I already changed my vote?)

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#431 (ISO #19)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
SiX wrote:
Messi wrote:
Vote Shadi


You were removed from the game due to inactivity.

l0l

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#433 (ISO #20)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Shadi wrote:
oh fuck... facepalm

well that should be evidence that im not mafia XD

Given the fact that you don't remember things that happened to you >5 minutes ago, not really =p

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#467 (ISO #21)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
K0ntRa wrote:
Konijn must lie too in that case. You really don't get this game, do you?

I must be missing something, can you explain?

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#482 (ISO #22)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Shadi wrote:
hmmm the unanimous vote worries me a bit, i was deliberately giving weird answers for someone else than leo to think it was some sort of mafia plot, also no counter claim yet..

let's agree now what we do in the events that leo is actually the officer, and in the events that he's mafia?

If he flips village, officer or not, Crisp0 should be lynched. The only way Crisp0 would be telling the truth in this instance would be if the CC targeted Leo the same round Crisp0 did which is statistically unlikely, so by playing to the odds it makes much more sense to lynch Crisp0 in this scenario.

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#484 (ISO #23)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Emziek wrote:
Konijn wrote:
If he flips village, officer or not, Crisp0 should be lynched. The only way Crisp0 would be telling the truth in this instance would be if the CC targeted Leo the same round Crisp0 did which is statistically unlikely, so by playing to the odds it makes much more sense to lynch Crisp0 in this scenario.

But if there is no counterclaim on the deputy role then why would we vote out crispo?

Because it would be more likely he was lying than not.

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#518 (ISO #24)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
I got a feeling I might die this round, so in-case I do I really hope the village listens to this and follows it:

1) If Leo flips village you MUST lynch Crisp0. Do not be convinced by those who will try to tell you that his vote was corrupted by the CC. Yes it is a possibility but it his highly improbable.
2) If Crisp0 flips mafia, lynch Shadi the next round. I already had my suspicions about him as I posted in the thread.

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#520 (ISO #25)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Shadi wrote:
Oh and another note in case I die

If Crispo dies and leo is also mafia, it confirms the counterfeiter has used his ability and all peeks from now on are 100% true.

No where does it say that the CC can only use his ability once.

SiX, confirm?

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#524 (ISO #26)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Shadi wrote:
if the following is true
crispo is deputy
leo is officer

the counterfeiter ability HAS been used and all peeks from now on are 100% true.

coz gf is dead.

wouldn't matter if both the deputy and officer are dead anyway and if leo flips officer but crisp0 doesn't die, there's 0 evidence that crisp0 is deputy and as I've said 3 times now it is HIGHLY probable he is mafia. CC using his target on leo the same round crisp0 targeted him is an extremely small chance, especially given that Crisp0 confirmed to me via PM that nobody else knew his role (i.e. nobody told him to peek leo to set it up) and that apparently the CC can only use his ability once.

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#526 (ISO #27)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Shadi wrote:
also if leo is actually the officer then fu to the real one, also i even if he flips village i think crispo is innonent, if needed lynch me over him. I could be very, very wrong about that but unless that's all the mafia used him for the entire game it's likely that he's innocent in my eyes.

Why are you so convinced that if leo is villager that crisp0 is innocent? You've been trying to hammer this home for a few posts now and it's really starting to smell like you and crisp0 have set this up with the get out clause of "oh the cc must have targeted him".

You're saying lynch you and not crisp0, I think you're aware that the town is less likely to lynch you over crisp0 and are just setting yourself up for when leo flips village...

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#532 (ISO #28)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Shadi wrote:
no it's more that i keep confusing myself about what's 100% confirmed or not so i've kept posting and rethinking, the whole officer and deputy thing both ebing dead and that means all peeks are confirmed didnt even think about that until a little bit before pointing it out.

It would mean that you are 100% confirmed villagers.

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and i'm saying it's unlikely for crispo to do this play, therefore i believe he's the dep.

It happened right after I put the fos on you, coincidence maybe idk but seem suspicious none the less.
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and why would i sacrifice myself for him? if i've really successfully led the mafia to lynch this many villagers why not continue the same gig konijn? doesn't make sense that i'd keep him alive over me.

Like I said, I don't think you would actually sacrifice yourself, I think you know it's less likely for the village to lynch you over crisp0 so by talking the heat off him maybe you think you can argue yourself out of it I don't know.

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#535 (ISO #29)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
Shadi wrote:
Emziek wrote:
Konijn wrote:
Shadi wrote:
if the following is true
crispo is deputy
leo is officer

the counterfeiter ability HAS been used and all peeks from now on are 100% true.

coz gf is dead.

wouldn't matter if both the deputy and officer are dead anyway and if leo flips officer but crisp0 doesn't die, there's 0 evidence that crisp0 is deputy and as I've said 3 times now it is HIGHLY probable he is mafia. CC using his target on leo the same round crisp0 targeted him is an extremely small chance, especially given that Crisp0 confirmed to me via PM that nobody else knew his role (i.e. nobody told him to peek leo to set it up) and that apparently the CC can only use his ability once.

Pretty sure the counterfeiter just affects everyone in the game and isn't a target action (@SiX please confirm). Which means, assuming ChrisPO is the real deputy, the Counterfeit was either used R1, R2 or hasn't been used yet.

yes affects everyone including the godfather for one round, every peeks get reversed for that one round.

well if this is true then it drastically increases the odds, however still I think crisp0 being a mafia if leo is villager is still more likely.

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#558 (ISO #30)  Re: [Event] Mafia XXX: Misfortune in Mafia Municipality [R3 ends 21:00 GMT +3]
ugh, part of me is happy that we lost this round, saves me the humiliation of forcing through a lynch of crisp0 only to have him flip deputy.

Shit we got rekt, didn't help that we had 4 people modkilled though...

Well played mafia.

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Every single game i'm mafia : /.
One day I'll be a villager i promise.


Much more fun to be mafia. I've only been mafia twice (i think?). Every game I hope and I'm disappointed each time...

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X: Emziek
X: Ultor

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