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#14 (ISO #1)  Re: [S2] Vampires I: Blood Pact
Dunno exactly how much time I have for this game since school is a thing atm, but [in]

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#49 (ISO #2)  Re: [S2] Vampires I: Blood Pact
Rainboy wrote:
Very well.

[vote WaywardVole]

Something something killing new players something.

[Vote Konijn]

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#78 (ISO #3)  Re: [S2] Vampires I: Blood Pact
This vote totally has meaning and isn't to just get me my 50 hp, what are you talking about?

[vote Lawliet]

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#79 (ISO #4)  Re: [S2] Vampires I: Blood Pact
[vote cml]

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#115 (ISO #5)  Re: [S2] Vampires I: Blood Pact
[vote cml]

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#120 (ISO #6)  Re: [S2] Vampires I: Blood Pact
Alrighty. Based on what Hater said above, I have information to throw into the open.

I snooped CML last round, and he has 123 (lel) life, plus a 500 shield.

Desperate Gamble absorbs damage and explodes if it gets enough, healing the caster. Cml is voting, so the shield goes up to 550 power. Lynch right now does 350 damage, and there's at least 1 Bandwagon Bargain (The one I did last round) on him, dealing 400 damage. If there's 150 more damage anywhere (like a 3rd round Hemo tick, or three more Bandwagons), then his shield will explode and give him 413 hp (rounding) and make everything that happened this round damn useless.
(Edit: Vampires can NK each other for the 200 damage that it deals. That fulfills the extra 150 damage the shield needs ez as fuck)

If, however, we leave him to sit and think about what he's done in the corner, the 550 leftover shield will kill him.


Kat made a peek last round that Kon had 975 life, and Draining a target that's been Unholy Retributioned gives 225 hp (150 to drain, 75 to the 50% bonus from a marked target). The village abilities don't have a clear choice for granting 75 hp, but the vampires have one that obviously happened: Rainboy said he was marked right before the post he died in.

So, with both of these things together...

TL;DR: Cml's gonna die already, lynch Kon
[Vote Konijn]

Edit: Typo on Lynch damage, herp. Also asked Hater about vampire NK.

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#148 (ISO #7)  Re: [S2] Vampires I: Blood Pact
WaywardVole wrote:
Iirc, someone made the comment that cml was basically dead anyways and lynching him was pointless.

That person was meeeeeeeeee

Well, three explanations, ordered in likelihood of probability:

1: A vamp Salvationed cml to prevent him from taking Gamble damage.
2: Cml Equilibriumed somebody with enough health to survive the Gamble damage. (Dunno if that counts as healing for Gamble, Hater said EQ doesn't count as healing for Lynch so I assume it's the same here)
2.5: Cml Enshrouded the round I peeked him (Unknown if Enshroud lets you fake having a shield, much afk Tater)

Dunno what exactly to do about cml not dying, but thankfully there's an obvious option atm...

Numble. There's no false positives in this game, so either Numble or Wayward is a vamp (or both, but bussing someone completely under the radar is wat)

[vote Numble]

@Kon - I didn't want you straight-up dead, but there has to be a lynch every round, and Xen's peek showed you with a rather large (and weird) amount of life, so I went with that instead of cml. If I hadn't been doing my homework last night, I would have jumped on the happy Numble wagon.

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#166 (ISO #8)  Re: [S2] Vampires I: Blood Pact
Konijn wrote:
Round 3: viewtopic.php?p=449409#p449409 - Everyone else is bandwagoning cml (for fairly good reasons posted in the thread) and MMage tries to redirect the lynch to Lawliet I voted Lawliet because I wanted my free 50 hp, Lawliet had me voted, and the bandwagon was very obviously going to happen. Note that Rain and I both changed to cml right before the round ended after deliberation in Teamspeak.

Round 4: viewtopic.php?p=449639#p449639 he claims to have snooped cml and tells us there's no point voting him as he will die anyway (note, this is also the same line that cml used in this post: viewtopic.php?p=449597#p449597) Not much to say here. It'd be nice if somebody could/did snoop CML to see if he just enshrouded the round I peeked him (or just got a fuckton of HP somehow), but he could be spamming Enshrouds until he dies atm. (Also, I used the same line as CML? Nice. +1 Reference Points)

Also in round 4 (same post as above) he claims that the HP I had is only possible for vamps. After my rebuttal (viewtopic.php?p=449655#p449655) he makes no follow up post, nor does he change his vote. I only narrowly escaped a lynch this round and it was MMage who started it with false information. Again (because reading is hard ), I didn't want you dead, I wanted CML not lynched. With the rather large life pool (less than 100 from max after being lynched) you still had, you seemed the best choice.

Again, in round 4, despite the fact that Wayward claimed a positive on numble and there was a 50/50 chance of him being a vamp, he doesn't change vote. I had homework. Wouldn't have killed anybody to poke me on Steam and say "Hey, someone peeked Numble as Vampire".

The early vote in round 5 on numble looks like damage mitigation to me. I just think he's getting in early with the vote because he knows that numble being lynched is inevitable and an early vote on a vamp gives him slightly more credibility. Damned if I hop on the bandwagon, damned if I don't. Much Numble Vamp peek.


The whole of your argument is using circular logic (You accuse me for not voting CML, then accuse me for voting Numble) and fundamental attribution error (Assuming I didn't jump on Numble because I must be on his team, not because I might be busy), not to mention the vendetta you seem to have over the R4 lynch on you. Not much else to say here without having to go through the previous rounds of posts, taco

[vote cml]

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Hey look, I'm going with the bandwagon like a good boy (even though I'm pretty sure this is a bad idea and CML's got a shield. Just gotta hope there's enough bandwagon bargains on him to not give a fuck, since lynch's gonna happen anyway.)


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#181 (ISO #9)  Re: [S2] Vampires I: Blood Pact
GG wp. I was the most obvious evil to ever evil an evil... and it almost worked. Village had no clue JUST how OP Desperate Gamble really is. CML would have survived every lynch from here until the end of the game (gaining health from them due to shield breakage), and nobody trusted my warnings to stay off him because I was being suspicious. That would have got me at least 3 extra rounds (probably more), and Xen/Arsenic/Wayward/Pr0g were all close to death. From that point, with cml sacrificing on the round the village didn't lynch him, I would have had 2k+ health and OP drains. Activating my own Desperate Gamble from that point (If I couldn't get village to lynch Kon, probably would have been simple enough) would have carried me to victory with my huge health bar.

Oh, and village never missing a lynch past R1. That was horribly unfortunate for us.
And Wayward/Pr0g peeking the round that we Equilibriumed them.
All in all, we got fuuuuuuuucked by luck.
(and that cml lost his fervor for the game after the first round where he wanted to suicide on Rain to get out of the game earlier take out a key player.)

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#186 (ISO #10)  Re: [S2] Vampires I: Blood Pact
Konijn wrote:
Yet I called you out on it and I also was investigating you this round (I'm sure this is part of the reason why you surrendered). Looks like my "fundamental attribution error" and circular logic wasn't so bad after all, huh?

The world will never know, the game didn't get to a point of choosing between you and me for lynch. And the peek would have just made that happen sooner.
Would have been an interesting challenge to find a way to invalidate that peek. Probably just claim you lied since you carried that vendetta.

Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:36 am Profile Send private message
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